New to Memory [Comptia A+, Memory Courses]

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Hi,

New to Memory, so far I’ve memorized a deck of Cards. Not sure what to do next. I’d like to pass the Comptia A+ certifications for my first memory challenge. How can I do that?

I’m thinking of buying a Memory Course, but don’t know which to buy, can someone give me advice?

Magnetic Memory Method-Is anyone familiar with this? What is the “Magnetizing” he talks about?

Thanks anyone

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Hi MemoryMiser,

Go on Ebay and buy Harry Lorayne’s Cassette Set “Memory Power.”
It has 6 cassettes but look for the one that has the “memory makes millionaires” cassette.
IF you have a vhs player, buy the vhs tape he has “Remember names & faces”

The cassette set has a thick memory workbook which basically has all the stuff he had taught while alive.

CD versions of the set are available from his website but those sets cost $120/130.

So If you can, stay with the cassettes…if not, search for his website and buy the cd set.

He taught all memory systems except the Memory Palace/Loci system.

Stefos

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Thanks,

What about Magnetic Memory Method or Black Belt Memory?

How do I get things to stick in my memory palace?

I’d like to learn IT stuff and a job in the field, how can I remember that type of stuff?

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Hi,

I think that MMM is more expensive than BBM.

Ron White actually competed in the Memory Championships and won 2x’s…Anthony Metivier didn’t but he is a very intelligent person and was a professor also.

The Memory Palace/Loci system (same thing) is done by using a route you already know and then associating (sticking) things to each location:

Ex. From home to work you have 5 locations…You associate or “stick” 5 things, concepts to each location and then mentally walk through the route to remember them.

You can create a “Palace” or “House” by using multiple rooms and doing the same thing.

You can also place/use furniture in each room to remember even more things.

Stefos

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I’ll link to some other discussions with people studying for Comptia A+ in case you want to share tips:

If you’re looking to memorize lists of information, here are pages about a couple of the techniques mentioned above:

There’s also a page on how to get started with memorizing numbers (you’ll want a system for memorizing numbers), and a short PDF ebook that provides an overview of the main techniques.

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Thanks again. What does Anthony Metivier mean when he says Magnetize something? Is his Magnetizing better than Ron White’s sticking?

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Thanks that’s awesome.

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Hi,

They probably mean the same thing:

Using all 5 senses to remember something vividly…to make it “stick” in your memory.

Its just a gimmick man to make money.

Stefos

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It’s the branding and a hint for how he thinks about it. Place a memory on this spot, as if sticking magnets. Maybe he’ll elaborate on that or correct me.

Both have been at this for a long time. Ron has won competitions, but I’d only really put weight on that if I was looking to win competitions.
For the actual content they are both bound to have a lot of overlap, but teach things in a way that’s filtered through their own personality, preferences (of techniques), and what they like to use the techniques for.

I can’t comment on either course. All I can offer is this skewed perspective from 100 yards, formed mostly by watching youtube videos. Ron seems to have a stronger focus on memorizing big amounts of data, discipline, stories, and tends to be pretty direct. I get the impression he has a strong preference for pegs/peg lists.
Metivier seems to like making you do most of the work yourself figuring out what it is he’s telling you. That can be frustrating, but it’s also an effective teaching strategy. Meditation and the use of memory techniques have helped with his personal demons, so there is a lot of enthusiasm on those topics. He seems to highly favour memory palace technique, likes to organize things alphabetically, and loves the major system.

If I were you, I’d go through the pdf Josh pointed you to first, see what snippets of free training the two offer, spend a week “with them” on their youtube channels (preferably testing what they say), and then pick.

Whatever you decide, the only wrong answer is inaction.

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Thanks for the help.

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There are so many resources here — and so many books available on memory techniques—that I’m curious why you are already thinking you need to buy a memory course. I’d suggest getting a solid grounding first, then, perhaps, signing up for a course that offers a lot of personal mentoring to get you to that next level. (If that’s what you need.)

Bob

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Thanks, Bob. I’m new to memory so I don’t really know what I need. I’m not against buying a course if it’s worth it. And so far, no one I’ve talked to has bought either of the courses, so I don’t suppose they know if it’s worth it either.

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MemoryMiser,

Hi,

I have gotten both courses and in my honest opinion…Buy Harry Lorayne’s course first.
Like I’ve stated to you: buy the cassette tapes and the thick manual that comes with it on Ebay.

You can Ron White’s course that’ll teach you Loci/Memory palace after.

All set

Stefos

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Dominic O’Brien’s Quantum Memory Power audio book is also fantastic.

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Hello there.
When I think of memory and association to a new unique field for learning, I would imagine they both have separation until you are h]familiar with the subject matter. You could buy many cheat sheets and using memory techniques associate to the sheets but in the end your “knowledge” will require learning and understanding in order to be relevant. At which time you can apply memory techniques for longevity, regurgitation at presentations etc…

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That’s the most valuable kind of course there is IMO. Especially for a certain personality type that really needs that human interaction for their learning experience.
Information is easy to come by. People who can help you navigate a domain effectively are pretty rare.

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Dr Metivier has been creating content for a long time and so he developed some analogies which became part of the vocabulary he regularly uses to explain and teach. A whole lot of his online print research, podcasts, videos etc are available for free (and I found them to be most useful).

One of the principles in the Magnetic Memory Method (MMM is an Alliteration, and easy to remember) is the use of CAVE COGS (which are two Acronyms, and harder to remember) …so for ease of communication I think he just sticks with magnetize / magnetic because it covers a lot, gets the message across, and doesn’t turn people off (they can memorize and apply what CAVE COGS is later).

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Also there’s kind of a wall I think - where we’ve done our own research and feel comfortable and accomplished on our own, and then one finds someone who’s an information clearing house, a central learning hub with lots of leading academic and professional authoritative connections - it’s like a real shot in the arm! At least for me.

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