Tip for practicing PAO

Something I realized fairly recently was the importance of independently associating the PAO elements in a PAO list to their numbers.

I think when people are first starting out with a PAO structure (myself included), it’s common to make the mistake of creating a full image that they associate to the number, like “TeDDy TooTing on a ToaD” to remember their “number 11” PAO items. This is especially the case if using a “traditional PAO” approach where the Person follows a rule like major system but then the action and object are associated directly to that person, like “Tim Tebow / Passing / a Football.”

The problem with making the full image self-associated is that when you go to memorize a string of numbers like 321142, the 11 is in the action position, so it is represented by “TooTing” or “Passing,” but the person and object are something else. If you always associate TooTing being done by TeDDy to a ToaD, or Passing being done by Tim Tebow with a Football, it can cloud and confuse your images on recall and slow things when you’re actually memorizing.

So how do you practice your PAO list effectively to avoid this, especially visualizing the action portion?

Isolate the individual elements. Go through your list and practice recalling only the “People.” Then go through again and only recall the “Actions.” Then again with the “Objects.”

For visualizing the Actions, there are a couple options.

The alternative is to try to imagine actions (and adjectives) in an abstract and “subjectless” way. Try to picture the act of “tooting on” without imagining a specific thing doing the tooting or getting tooted on. Try to picture the state of being “zitty” without overlaying it on a specific subject. It takes some more effort but can be done, maybe by basing it around a faceless mannequin so that there is no specific subject association with it.

Another possibility is to imagine seeing yourself in a mirror performing the action when trying to memorize your list association. Assuming you don’t have yourself as a PAO person, this can help isolate the action so it doesn’t overlap into the other elements for the number. It can also bring some other sense associations into the action. You’d imagine how you’d feel performing the action, what it would sound/smell/taste like.

The “imagine yourself” approach could also be particularly helpful if you want to add adjectives to the mix and go for a PAAO list. Adjectives are tough to visualize on their own. If you use yourself as a placeholder, you can develop the “look” of your adjectives without baking it onto a person or object that needs to stay isolated to keep your P’s and O’s clear.

However you approach it, remember that when you practice your list it should be in the form of “this Number is this Person,” OR “this Number is this Action,” OR “this Number is this Object.” Try not to fall into the trap of practicing “this number is this person doing this action with this object.”

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I agree with what you are saying and the advise you are giving in your last sentence of your message is most profound and I totally agree with it 100%. Just curious if you wouldn’t find a Q (Quote) perhaps stronger than an A (Adjective). As you are using the Major System and not the Dominic System (which I favour over the Major System), I will give you an example using #11 which in Dominic System translates into AA. For AA I have Person (Archie Andrews)/ Action (Drinking) / Object (A Milkshake) for Q I have him singing: “Sugar oh oh honey honey…” (An Archies hit from 1969). I think you’ll go a lot further with Quotes than you will with Adjectives but that just my personal preference.

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Thanks! Interesting idea on the quote angle. I’m using major system. I’ve managed to find major adjective words for all 00-99 of my list. They’re all fairly easily visualizable adjectives that can overlay on an object or person. I actually used the paao approach to make groups of 8 digits per loci for my Pi memorizing project and it worked really well.

I’m not sure all my people are memorably quotable haha. Also because I’m basing all of my words on major system, it would be tricky to code a quote that same way

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Tim I think you shouldn’t lose sight of the fact that all our casts of characters whether encoded from Major System or Dominic System are really our own creation through the theatre of our minds. I wouldn’t unnecessarily trip up on the famous Quotes as too be something taken literally to illustrate using a Major PAOQ example for number 25. #25 would translate into NL in the traditional Major System’s encoding as N=2 and L=5. Therefore Nikki Lauda would be an ideal candidate for the Person that represents #25. An ‘action’ of Nikki Lauda may be ‘skidding’. An obvious ‘object’ for Nikki Lauda would be his “F1 Red-Ferrari”. Now using some poetic license a Nikki Lauda Quote may be: “F… I’m on Fire!” Excuse my political incorrectness here in this quote but remember no one needs to know what Quotes you have prescribed for each of your characters 00-99, as they are merely ‘mechanisms’ that you are using in the theatre of your mind, that are personal to you and nobody else’s business. In short, irrespective of the fact that Nikki Lauda never actually factually said those words himself is irrelevant to this exercise. You are only using that particular Quote when recalling an 8 digit number whose last two digits happen to be #25 (For example: 99-09-10-25). You can of course use some factual quotes for some of your characters too, for example number 99 could convert into BB or Bugs Bunny and a common thing Bugs Bunny always says is: “What’s up Doc?”. So in short, I am merely advocating that you use your imagination for a Quote that ‘associates’ unambiguously with one and only one of the characters in your list of characters from 00-99. Hope that clarifies the method I use more clearly for you but of course, use whatever obviously works best for yourself!

In closing, I believe that the strength of using Quotes is that they are ‘auditory’ as opposed to visual. One of the fundamental memory principles is to invoke as many of your senses that you possibly can. So adding Quotes to develop a System of PAOQ makes logical sense to me? The example of 99-09-10-25 in Major System given above as a PAOQ would be Bugs Bunny (99) (Person)/ Sleeping (09) Action of (09) Sleeping Beauty/ Disco-Ball Object of (10) Donna Summer/ Screaming: “F… I’m on Fire!” = Quote for (25).

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Thanks for clarifying, that makes a lot of sense! I really like the idea of an auditory component as part of the scene.

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Just mentioning I got this idea of PAOQ from Paul Andrews @magicpauluk which if you do a search in the search function using PAOQ you will pick up on the original thread. In that thread that I’ve just gone back to, it is explained that you can memorize a full-deck of 52 cards using only 13 Loci in a memory palace using 13 ‘mini-mind-movies’ as I like to describe my scenes pictured in my mind’s eye. Just putting it out there that I am not the first to use a PAOQ system, nor no doubt will I be the last to use it either. What’s important to stress is that it works!

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