Hey there,
After creating a lot of places, my storage is full.
I need more palaces for new information and wonder to use artificial palaces/journeys to memorize that new information.
What do you think about it? Would you use them and why?
Also, are they less effective? If yes, then why and for absolute visual persons like me, too?
Iām glad Iām not the only one wondering this! I just finished creating my first and only artificial palace however for several of the rooms, I took previous locations (I.e. transplanting my bedroom, friendās kitchen, cousinās laundry room, etc). Iām curious to see if anyone has any experience with this being less effective.
I donāt have any experience myself on this topic, but I found this paper which seems to indicate that there is not much of a difference (at least for naive users/beginners). Unfortunately itās behind a paywall, but the abstract as interesting enough. 
I think they are fine. Once you convert a space into a mental representation itās just a thought inside of your head. If you havenāt seen it, there is also a page on virtual memory palaces.
I create and populate my palaces all at the same time and although I am interested in building an artificial one, and I tried a few, I have not found a way to use them on the fly, so they are not suited for my needs.
If anybody here has managed to create and populate and use an artificial palace on the fly, I am very interested!
Also, I cannot imagine anyone running out of real palaces, I keep on getting new ones everyday wherever I go and I have travelled a lot, but still, most of my palaces are from my childhood and teen years. And I could not run out since I cannot put them to use as fast as new ones appear in my day to day life.
I guess Iam lucky, but then again, perhaps not because maybe thats what causes my failures with artificial just because I dont need them?? But I am very interested and @user_7e and others experiences with artificial palaces is quite intriguing and fascinating, Id really like a taste of what youre having
Ill try again, but the only thing It ends up being is a long string of the images I am trying to remember and their necessary linking, no space to walk through really. i guess I have to try harder. I m trying to build walls and rooms and saloons and kitchens and theatres and halls and whatever comes to mind but I am ending up with just a simple linear string of associations. Perhaps Im too used to using real palaces that I didnt develop a sort of āimaginary spacesā skill?
I never put more than one image per locus. Am I mistaken or it works even better for you with 2 or 3? Perhaps I compensate by making more associations between the locations. But Ill try 2 for a while, who knows. I am doing as good as is needed but Im really thirsty for new discoveries.
Thank you for your reply!
You motivated me to start with artificial memory palaces/journeys 
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Thank you! That article is informative 
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Thank you for your answer and for that article.
This article is very interesting!
I had a flash when you said that.
Take image to remember, miniturize myself and walk through it, slide off it, squeeze it, taste a piece of it, and jump, swim, run to, fly to next one, bringing a piece from previous to next, and it works wonderfully. Oh! And I also instinctively made myself a giant grabbed a whole beach and planted it in a field if grass which I cut to glue on an old man s face making him a green field.
I just did almost a bit over 50 from pexels.com homepage and recall was perfect! Was so much fun too. I havent played video games since my childhood and it felt like I was a videogame hero like Mario.
This is first time I really feel space without a real palace.
Am trying that again.
Thats a real good nudge you just gave me user_7e, thanks a lot!
P.s I had already got pretty good at linking images :
to remember images (under Ā±100) I would simply have first image have an effect on second image and got really good at this without having to use a memory palace.
Sure feels like this could help me transform that into artificial palaces. Could be nice upgrade!
This is a cool topic and I have been thinking about it for a long time. It seems to me that expansion will take place over time, this is inevitable if you do not make a library in one room, but it is much more complicated.
ā¦isnāt the second option really just using the linking method instead of a memory palace and adding a backdrop to the story as it progressesā¦ ending up with a Post-hoc-ergo-propter-hoc-palaceā¢ļø in the end?
ITās ok. Videogames are a great source, you get familiar with paths as you play and thereās an emotional charge. Open environment videogames are good options. Hereās an example https://youtu.be/O2fjWvuMrAQ?t=95
My favorites franchises are Neverwinter nights, Half-life, KOTOR, SWOT, Elders scrolls, Assassinās Creed, Thief, Fable, The witcher, CS, Team Fortress.
Edit: Thereās a Virtual Reality Skyrim!!
About a month ago, I was thinking about virtual memory palaces. I decided to make a little drawing of a building that I could use to memorise things.
I spent about ten minutes doodling a small dome-shaped building with various location spots and then forgot about it. Reading this thread reminded me of it. Despite not seeing the sketch for over a month, I still remember every detail.
Makes me wonder if I could make my own virtual palaces. Perhaps I should try a bigger building and see if it sticks too.
Weāve had this convo at least 4 times in the last couple of months. Pardon me if my response is repetitive.
Many people use virtual places partly because its nice to have a dedicated palace for a particular purpose and also because you can customize the structure to the data and be more efficient.
You can do the whole thing āvirtualyā or you can make some kind of model. @Maya uses her game software to build Palaces.
https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/mayas-memory-palaces/31129?u=zvuv
Some do sketches. This is my favorite. I like any excuse to fool with my pencils so itās fun for me but more importantly, the engagement with the drawing will fix the image very firmly and review is very quick.
Here is my Palace for the JavaScript Object
https://forum.artofmemory.com/uploads/default/original/2X/0/09d7cb15f2cc1f4ec4508e193f916bcade108869.jpeg
As I say everytime I show this, color would be an asset but for various reasons, I donāt draw in color.
Thereās no need to draw anything - one can cut and paste Clip Art, print out and mark up an existing image, make a collage, use a simple editing program. No drawing skill is required.
There are also physical models. I have a friend who makes marvelous little houses with furniture all out of carboard and balsa wood. Which brings up the Lukasa introduced here by @LynneKelly. This thread has a lot of material in it.
https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/miniature-memory-palaces-including-your-palm/28864/105
Itās interesting that you populate the environment with your characters. For some reason I like the idea of drawing the environment empty and filling it in my head instead.
This a dedicated Palace and is to be used solely to store those items.
Artificial memory palaces/journeys ARE needful.
The link system works great too and is itās on the same level as the memory journey, sort of.
The point that would equate them would be to link one item/name/etc. together in a story form OR
link them on oneās body.
Stefos
Right now im still discovering with street, there is always place in my head that still free,
I discover my street home to work, my school to home, lot of street need to discover
The artificial is not a sin, memory palace and major system is not real at all
Considering you walk through like in game, now I plan to remember place with cs 1.6 map in my head
