You have a current 00-99 Major-System?! Then you might be scared of figures like “931”.
You could go through the pain and learn 99+ symbols. (Nobody needs that and no one has the leisure)
You could combine Major system with single digit 0-9 system. (Thats too simple)
You could upgrade your Major-system [I will use examples from my system]
1. Define categories for a range of numbers.
- Range 100 - 999 is the “visual” category
- Range 1000 - 1999 is the “Pokemon” category.
- Range 2000 - 2999 is the “animal” category
- Range 3000 - 3999 is the “sound” category
…
2. Each category consists of 9 segments
→ 100-199; 200-299; 300-399… 900-999.
→ 1100-1199; 1200-1299; 1300-1399… 1900-1999.
…
3. Find a symbol for each segment [9 symbols for 9 segments in 1 category]
use the Major-System-logic. 1 = T/D, 2 = N, 3 = M …
Begin the symbol with the appropriate letter, the rest doesn’t matter !
1931: Pikachu + Motte [Moth]. → create your link as you are used to.
History date 1989: Berlin Wall is teared down. → Pikachu [1900-1999] is sitting on the shoulder of an FBI-agent [89]. Pikachu jumps and attacks the Berlin Wall with its tail and the Wall collapses. (There is even a attack from Pikachu using its tail. Don’t know the english name)
You will raise the question why it is necessary to create this new system if you could use in this instance your 00-99 system by the combination of two pictures.
You prevent “overuse” of your Major-System.
More combinations. More comedy, more tragic… better memorization.
It will be easier to learn history dates and other things you choose to learn.
This way you are more flexible for “real world issues” because important numbers have different lengths.
I would rather use PAO with 110 images (0-9 + 00-99) in this case…
(I use customized Dominic system to construct my 110 PAO though)
So a historic date [CCYY] could be broken down with a Person [CC] doing an Action [YY];
Now your examples would be encoded as:
19 - Andorid #19 (from anime Dragon Ball Z) [P] sucking energy off somebody [A] with his hands [O]
31 - Captain America [P] throwing off [A] his shield [O]
89 - Hiro Nakamura (from TV series “Heros”) [P] time travelling [A] wearing his glasses [O]
Year 1931:
Android #19 throwing off something (doesn’t really matter)
Year 1989:
Android #19 time travelling back in 1989 and knocked down the Berlin wall with his mighty power
Why would you rather use PAO than Major. I have never delved into PAO and it does not seem to be working for me.
Major on the other hand is my strength and I am very good with it.
And I don’t see the difference quite yet. You use 2 informations (Person and Action) for one history date. And I use two also (Symbol+Major).
I would always go with Major. And therefore I needed a way to make it stronger without having to come up with items for three, for and five digit numbers.
Well, I guess I’m not fluent enough in English (not my first language) to come up with words using the Major system… I do find PAO easier for me to learn and apply, perhaps going down the road I might revisit the Major system and see if it will work better for me.
Yes, they are similar in a way that both use 2 information per date, but I find it easier to work with a finite set (PAO) instead of coming up with something on the fly (Major), but then it’d be less creative using my approach… anyway I’m still experimenting with various approaches so I might change to use something else later. Right now I just need to memorize something useful using what I already have
I kinda understand your system, I think. But what I understand of it seems to be that you have to remember more images than before.
What I understand is that you have to know your 00-99 major pictures, that is a given. so basically, you start off with 100 images. Then you add another 100 to fill in hundreds and thousands, working with categories like ‘pokemon’ or ‘sounds’. So you end up with 200 images. So far so good, 200 isn’t that many.
But, you make 3 or 4 digit numbers by taking an image from both the systems, and linking them together. Fine of course, but to me it is unnecessary. You got an image for ‘19’ in your major system, so why not just use that one and stick the two linked images on the same loci? you’ll end up having to use only 110 images in total, rather than 200.
Do tell me if I’m wrong!
I also use the category system with a PAO, allowing me to memorize up to 6 digits on one loci with just one single image. The Major system never really caught my eye, as I am a visual thinker rather than an auditive thinker. Creating images with sounds was not for me. Ben System was very appealing, but I decided to go with categories, as it gives me also a category to work with when I forget an image (“I forgot the person… but I know it was someone from Star Wars… oh yea! Darth Vader”)
@rtpub: of course you would use words in your mother tongue, if you develop a Major-System. And the Major symbols are always the same, thats important. Therefore, it is really comparable to PAO in this case. But as Mayarra lined out, it is your personal preference which system to choose. Both are good, but one might suit you better.
@Mayarra: You almost got it right. My system builds on the 00-99 system. If I am going to remember a three digit number, it would clearly be out of the Major-System range. Therefore I have to be creative about this issue. Thats why I came up with segments. You raised the concern, that it would be much to learn. That is certainly not the case. Yes, you are going to learn more symbols, but it is clearly no big deal. The word for 1xx would begin with ‘T/D’ and 1xxx also with ‘T/D’. The word for 2xxx with ‘N’ and 3xxx with ‘M’. It respects and follows the Major logic. If you know the category you will admit that it is very simple to deal with this issue. It does therefore not require a lot of effort to learn the ‘upgrade’. Its rather a thing of few minutes.
→ To make it clear: I would have to know 9 symbols in order to be able to create memorable pictures in the range of 100-999. and thats how it continues. The range from 1000-1999 requires 9 symbols, as well as 2000-2999.
In short: You would have to learn 9 symbols if you strive for a new number range, and its always only 9.
You further raised an very important issue, which I have thought about too, while drafting my system. Why not just using 2 symbols out of the 00-99 Major-System if you are going to memorize a 4 digit number?!
-The answer is simple and very appealing.
→ My system creates an unique atmosphere.
-If you ask me something about the 20th century I know its all about “Pikachu” [19xx]. Since I use this picture comparable rarely to my Major-System itself it becomes more memorable. And further I would not need any loci or even Mind-Palace. I would just have to memorize the interaction between “Pikachu” and the Major-Symbol. And it will stand out.
-Therefore it becomes the loci itself. I outlined the way I memorize PI in another post of mine. You will see that I use the Major system as a loci. It is therefore to me a very outstanding thing to have Pikachu doing something.
You guys seem to dwell into the discussion which system is stronger in this instance. I think both systems work very well. For me Major is the even better alternative, because I think it is more flexible, it allows adjustments and can specify over time. I think Major is also good for visual thinker, because thats what we all try to do… make things visual.
Suzy-
Actually you have 1-99 coded by major system using an object. Then you are choosing to code the 100’s and 1000’s place xx 00 with two linked images. So you have to pick a category and then use a character from that category. So why not just code people with your major system. Code people up to the number 100, then you will cover the first two digits this way. For example. 09- SB-Sandra Bullock …driving…a bus…
933- 09-sb= sandra bullock …driving… a mummy
1933- 19-DB- David Beckham kicking a mummy
Just code the first two digits with a person, therefore you have a wardrobe of 100 items instead of 2 single digits.
Suzy…also correct me if i’m wrong. But for 1000-1999 requires 10 not 9 symbols. And this is true for all your numbers as if you do not have 10 then how do you represent 1000-1099? If you do not have a symbol for 0 in the hundreds column then how to represent 1099 or 2099 or 3099? You need a symbol to represent the 0 in the hundreds place,
I’ve been afraid to throw my system out there but here goes. I, of course, have the pictures for under 100. I have ten numbers in each room. Each room is a different color which would coincide with a different set of 100’s, 200’s, ect. in the previous post we want to code 30997. 30 would be a mouse. the 1st 9 would be purple (anything in the 900 range is purple), then the 97 would be a book. So, it boils down to a mouse reading a purple book. Not saying my method is better than anyone elses, it’s just what I use.
That might be confusing as you are using two objects so how will you know which is first or which is the last 2 digits. i have not figured out which is better. To build a system where a memorize 10 pictures and use that for each digit place or build a system with 100 pictures which will code for 2 places.
so to code for 99 i would need to memorize either 100 pictures or 20 pictures. however when building my final image i would need to use either 1 image interacting with another or just one image.
Eg: 9 in ones column will be an object and in 10s column will be an animal.
9-balloon
9-baboon
a baboon holding a red balloon is = 99
or using the major or dominic system and coding for 100 people or objects
99=Baby ( major )
99= Nick Nolte ( dominic )
memorizing 20 things seems much easier than memorizing a 100 so what is the reason people choose 100? I guess 10 is not powerful enough?
I think with multiple pictures I would place the first one on the left and work toward right, thus knowing which is first. Even the mouse with the book, turn the picture 90% with the mouse on the lefr.
Correct, 10 is not powerful enough. I forget the name of the phenomenon but it is a well researched one, where when you have repeating items in a sequence the sequence becomes more difficult to remember than if all items were unique. This is a problem if you want to memorize 10 decks of cards back to back with only 52 objects. It’s very difficult. Memorizing a sequence of digits of any quantity large enough that you’d actually want to use mnemonics to do it (50+?) is going to be so confusing with only 10 objects. Is it easier to name 100 and learn objects or to just name 10 and memorize using those? There’s no comparison, 100 objects is the infinitely easier path.
I’ve been wondering about this for remembering historical information. You could build some kind of links for the various centuries and use Major for the individual years. So for AD 0-99 of course just Major. Now 100-199, probably a Roman senator or soldier. 200-299, maybe Origen, Christian writer. 300-399, Constantine the Great in Rome. 400-499, Augustine. 500-599, birth of Mohammed. Etc. As I research this, I see that it might be pretty difficult to use actually, I just don’t know the Middle Ages very well!
