Type of places/sources to use for memory palace

Hey, I am going through lots of post to understand what exactly memory palce is, how to use it and other things related to memory palace. From my view I have understood few things that I will be mention below If you think this is all about it please add your sources also. Just to remind I am new to this and haven’t even started making one but I read somewhere in the forum is to start is just indulge straight away and with coming up and downs I could understand it more. Please bare with me as I am not so good in English.

  1. :house: with rooms in it
  2. Still images with few details
  3. Friends and thier house
  4. Friends photos from fb and related
  5. Neighbourhood houses
  6. Street
  7. Memories from past may be house you lived
  8. Stories with pictures
  9. Stories with animation which later can be captured still images
  10. Movies with journey and captured images
  11. Games (again same either remember journey or captured the still)
  12. Virtual world/tour ( I searched but very hard to find, one I got was munx vr based on macunx by Aaron but not reliable too much at least for me)
  13. Anime ( my favorite-- going to be, jjust a instinct as I am an otaku) :blush:

That’s all I could recall.
Lots of the above you could club together but Just they are so significant I mentioned it separately.
By the way I am from India but from north east looks like chinese japanes type Though I am indian …they don’t consider us one… lots of say they do but they are just hypocrite…lol

Besides those I learnt how to connect loci/peg with object or person or whatever you want to connect

Linking
Association
Chaining.

May be above three are same

Then journey…where someone mentioned it’s is significantly different than memory palace but works on same principle.

That’s all fellows
One more thing… I am preparing for Indian civil service exam…which is consider toughest exam in comparison to others…as selection chances are less than 0.0001 percent and syllabus is huge.
Subjects that comes are all social studies or art related
Like History…both indian and world. Polity, geography both India and world, economy ( not economics), art and culture, basic science etc.
I am mentioning this because I will be in need of help may be…

I rest my case here…please give your ideas for making loci…correct me if I am wrong anywhere.

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I am also new to memory palace but in my opinion still images are bad. There are no images actually there are objects that you place in the palace and objects can interact with other objects. If I have to remember an gun (21) and ant (72) in sequence then I will place a gun in the first place imagine it shooting a bullet on an ant which I place at the second place.

I don’t think so. They look very different to me. By the way which state from the seven sisters?

Gavino mentioned about still images in his massive loci method. He wrote about facebook friends images from Facebook account as far as I could recall. And I saw a whole thread about still images where people were using old era photos to remember loci.
I’m not saying those are wrong or right. I haven’t personally used it yet. Those who use it I wonder how they use it or maybe they used as a supplementary.

I am from Assam Meghalaya exactly. It’s kind of in between.
Where are you from? Your names looks Indian though.

@Nishit so you are new to this, how are you using memory of loci. You have your favourite if I would like to know.

Also I think still images are also good for memory of loci.
We can use it for memorable photos which already in your memory like Photos of friends and places you know of.
As example take a photo of Monalisa. We can use her mouth, nose, eyes, hairs, as a memory of loci. And then link what you want to remember.
I just have a doubt how to remember for massive things that I also mentioned here
https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/how-to-give-structure-to-massive-loci/49471

For me the easiest “palaces” are places I’ve lived, but no longer live. They’re very familiar, but unlike where I live now, they don’t ever change. I then make a path that goes through the whole house without crossing itself, and select locations on my right along the path. I number them, and put a numeric image at every 10th location so that when I review the locations I know if I’ve missed one…

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@Mrrahu great to see you looking to use memory palaces.

Concept:
The idea of the memory palace being one of the stronger memory tools to use is that it is based on the fact that our brains are very good at remembering locations.
So if you use a memory of a location you already know well, then you use another strength to remember something that we do not know well. Association. Associate what we do not know well with a location that we do.

What can be used as a memory palace:

  • your house
  • your apartment
  • your journey form home to work
  • your work place
  • your school
  • your clubs
  • restaurants
  • bars
  • church\temples
  • university
  • movie theaters
  • virtual rooms (games)

How to use them:
This is where most people have differences. The memory techniques folks use are methods, but you now need to build systems with them that best help you make the most of them, based on the tasks you are working on.

for example:
Memorising a book:
I would scan the book, check how many chapters are in the book, identify the number of topics, and the typical number of points within each chapter.
Then I would identify one of my existing memory palaces that could handle that structure or make one at that point.
i.e book has 20 chapters, with 10 points each. I will use a memory palace that has just over 20 rooms and has 10 loci in each room. (probably a school/ or my workplace)

However if the requirements are much larger, like Linux administration:

I might develope a number of memory palaces, one for each topic, with rooms enough for each major subject within each topic, then each room will have enough loci for each minor subject.

With the above I could have more than 20 memory palaces just for Linux Administration.

how to save information in the memory palace:

Again this depends a lot on you, and what works for you.
Before I started making memory palaces, I worked on creating images and systems for things I came across a lot, like numbers (used the major system to make a 00 -99 image list) and the alphabet (in a way that reminds me not only of the letter but also the NATO phonetic alphabet), mathematical operands, programming concepts, etc.

That way once I had them, the images will be reused going forward.

I also like using the linking method a lot. that way one loci in a memory palace can hold several bits of information.

I will label a memory palace with an image that tells me what is in it. then each location will have the particular image generated for the data I want to remember.

ie. bible verses: Psalm 34:4 is a palm tree (dont ask it just seem to work for me) using a MoweR to trim a Row boat. For me I have an image for each book of the Bible, a lawn mower is the number 34, and a row boat is number 4.

That is one image on one loci ( in this case the landing of my stairwell). Some of my images so outrageous that they can be still images and still be memorable. For others I treat them like a short movie.

However it is best that you experiment with what works for you.

How to use the memory palace:

Once you have populated the memory palace with memorable images, the work is not done.
Remember that you still need to review to remember that information. Also the memory palace is a tool to help get the actual information in to long term memory.

Use space repetition to do this. when you first create and fill your memory palace, you may want to review it a couple of times that same day, without looking at the original source of the data. when you can recall that info correctly then, next do a review the following day. and the day after that. then two days later, then three days after that, then a week later, then a month later.

the idea here is that this causes your brain to see the information as important to keep as you review it and use just before the brain intentionally lets it fade.
The exact times works slightly differently for each person so use the above as a guide at first and test yourself.

the information will then go into long term memory and you will find yourself recalling it without necessary walking through the memory palace. Which is what we want. The good thing is that if anything does start to fade the images should still be there if you are doing the review.

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I’m teaching my daughter Spanish and have found Roblox (free) brilliant for creating memory palaces to learn vocab/grammar.

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Hi @topazann
This is the first time I have heard about Roblox. Very cool.
It looks like a lot a potential virtual memory palaces.
Thank you for the idea.