'looking for advice on developing Pythagoras memory technique, showing my results, if its true - its one of the most important things for life success?

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Dear art of memory fourm website users

I just looked over - some of the website information , statistics , and doesn’t show that there are actively much users on this fourm?

So - maybe i could help this website grow if i made my own post here *

, also would benefit me If its true developing memory - is something which can help IQ and therefor success in life (to a certain degree , although- I’m not really sure, would also - feel like ‘ trying to invest time into developing my memory : can’t actually be the most key thing that would help myself actually to become successful in life, and there’s other things I should do to get to that*

the 1st thing I could mention, is I was attracted to this website, actually post on it here, right now - after I contacted a type of ‘ person that works for this website, a staff - in e-mail’ and he made a type of about 7 thread email conversation with myself

From my memory- I was originally writing to him - about the topic of Pythagoras memory technique * ?

Here is the method : A Bedtime Memory Building Exercise

It was also written about long ago in this post : A Bedtime & Morning Exercise for Life Memorization (Pythagoras) - General Memory Chat - Art of Memory Forum , trying to develop the exercise - after reading the users post myself - I felt there were also things which he could have improve on or things he could have wrote about - to help knowledge of the technique develop per say

I can start here by explaining more I wrote an example to josh : “one of the habits I got into was : trying to do the memory technique everyday on days (where i have insomnia) get drowsy or - see myself ‘fall asleep’ (for key reasons) * , if i can remember also

So when I have this effect happen to myself : I will go over the , a text “Every night, as you’re lying in bed ready to fall asleep, review what you did during the day from start to finish in as much detail as you can possibly remember. Start with the exact moment you woke up and got out of bed and finish with the moment that just passed as you laid back down in your bed. Visualize every single detail in your mind, each and every step you took in sequential order from beginning to end as if you were watching a video recap of your day.”

and - force myself to do it for 5 minutes basically at the (time in the evening, after my 2nd meal, but not while in bed *

But that’s it basically:

since- i found out about the technique: i don’t think ever been able to do it for 30 days, or even as far as say 7-4 days in a row?

Is it worth – that with this topic post - I also put a implementation to commit to doing it really more?

and then also : give exact examples (of my ‘recordings’ on the phone I am making actually are,

something key that stood out to myself was actually : the other only user (i could , I have so far read about this technique (on this site- said he would do it for much longer? was it he said - would do it for 15 minutes (or more, go through entire day start to finish? - sound autistic?

I would feel if If I were to try that then I would really struggle.

P.S.

One of my ideas also - was posting in the ‘ journal section’ - if it applies more to what I’m write I’m trying to do with this post, but I will see how this goes for now …

title could be “'looking for advice on developing Pythagoras memory technique, showing my results, if its true - its one of the most important things for life success?”

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Visual memory is not the core to be exploited for better rememberance. Method Of Loci which I believe has most of the things related to mnemonics, also does not rely on it. My research indicates it is due to traversal, which is scanning a place through peripheral vision. This was important for us in hunter gatherer stage for survival. We needed to have approximate ‘map’ of location with contents so that if it is life threatening situation, we could get away quickly due to the help of spatial awareness. Many people confuse visual memory with traversal because it seems similar but stimulates totally different region of brain. Imagining something in locus is visual memory, walking a path and noticing something even if faintly is traversal, notice the perceived similarity. Ad-herennium has mentioned this rapid walking. Many memory champions explain this experience of just seeing faintly or even feeling which is traversal. You can search for it.

These ideas of remembering in sleep, relaxing and doing, focusing are moving in circles. We are talking about ‘art’ here. Ask any artists, players, musicians if aforementioned things have something of value to their art and hear their perspectives. As a musician we do not feel too much of a music we perform as people think, it is mostly technical. We think of motif, story, harmony, lyrics. Listeners interpret them differently. I have noticed people interpret a single piece of music differently if it is complex enough harmonically.

On note of reviving this forum, it contains everything a person needs to get started and many findings of people which is icing on top which many people do not even require. For me personally, I see no point in adding anything to it. I only feel like mentoring a person in this art so that he/she would move from almost all bullcrap and I could see genuine enjoyment in mnemonics which is what it is for.

Your initiation is best for experimentation. If you are in that direction be explicit about it. I shall join.

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Hi Arun512 - I felt like you gave me a really good reply here? surprised , being a person with ASD autism (short term memory problems HELL

after your first paragraph “Visual memory is not the core to be exploited for better rememberance. Method Of Loci which I believe has most of the things related to mnemonics, also does not rely on it. My research indicates it is due to traversal, which is scanning a place through peripheral vision. This was important for us in hunter gatherer stage for survival. We needed to have approximate ‘map’ of location with contents so that if it is life threatening situation, we could get away quickly due to the help of spatial awareness. Many people confuse visual memory with traversal because it seems similar but stimulates totally different region of brain. Imagining something in locus is visual memory, walking a path and noticing something even if faintly is traversal, notice the perceived similarity. Ad-herennium has mentioned this rapid walking. Many memory champions explain this experience of just seeing faintly or even feeling which is traversal. You can search for it.”

Question : so what practice are you saying would be better exactly?

gave example of doing something practical using maps ?

“These ideas of remembering in sleep, relaxing and doing, focusing are moving in circles. We are talking about ‘art’ here. Ask any artists, players, musicians if aforementioned things have something of value to their art and hear their perspectives. As a musician we do not feel too much of a music we perform as people think, it is mostly technical. We think of motif, story, harmony, lyrics. Listeners interpret them differently. I have noticed people interpret a single piece of music differently if it is complex enough harmonically.”

are you saying doing something traversal is best for improving memory?

this paragraphy looked like the grammar was completed continuing your train of thinking from the last paragraph, but I struggle to understand.

3 “On note of reviving this forum, it contains everything a person needs to get started and many findings of people which is icing on top which many people do not even require. For me personally, I see no point in adding anything to it. I only feel like mentoring a person in this art so that he/she would move from almost all bullcrap and I could see genuine enjoyment in mnemonics which is what it is for.

Your initiation is best for experimentation. If you are in that direction be explicit about it. I shall join.”

I scanned over your too last paragraphs again - yes!, that is my goal to try to remove all the bull crap - or get to the ‘bang for your buck’ right.

The other user X - was being like the most explicit as possible giving 30-60mins details of his memory practice.

but with what i wrote above- example I just do 5 minutes- what would be the next best steps for me?

if its true memory improves your life, has potential to be one of the best things.

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Yes.

This is a public forum. You are expecting mentorship here. I was expecting same while starting. No one was willing. If you find anyone, good luck.

If you are autistic than forget that I commented. I comment on behalf of ordinary person with a drive to figure things out. I am a no medical expert and I do not know how to communicate with you. I strongly have restrained myself giving advice in situations where medical situationship come up.

You are a good soul. You will figure things out. Whatever questions arise, research on them and develop your own understanding.

Your last question is debatable. There has to be something non influenced by memory.

Finally, out of curiosity, how does it feel to be ASD autistic?

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Hi arun,

I think I was given member ship before you posted your last comment (i think you made a type error with mentorship) wait - no you mean’t to write mentorship?

Oh your saying people don’t give mentorship on this fourm really ? like yourself.

The only way to improve- is just study the other users on this fourm? is that what you did.

Why would you say to forget you commented because i am autistic ?

I have a drive to figure things out.

thanks for saying i am a good soul - you also believe in karma? Yes okay research the questions.

‘There has to be something non influenced by memory.’ i don’t remember my last question, something non influenced by memory - like genetics?

to be ASD autistic- it is like a night mare, it happened to myself after I got v@ccine , and now i am on chelation protocol to reverse autism like others hand (but I don’t know if writing more about this topic of ASD is beyond the topic rules of this fourm due to dogma?

thanks

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Arun,

I really do appreciate - that you gave me 2 replies on this thread so far.

I could give an example right now of my scenario whilst writing this: where I was thinking to myself - yea I may for example try either doing the pythargous (typo) technique for 5 minutes when my parents arrive home * or try to read/revise more of posts/stuffs on this website like your user profile.

I didn’t do the memory technique yesterday where i was more tiered.

‘one of my reoccurring voices is like asking : could other users also give suggestions or guidance of how much time to spend on the topic of :studying memory each day? for goals such as life success , or IQ gain , spiritual skills etc

P.S.

Arun- are you a member of any other websites also?

P.S. 2 - I could give an example also today right now - I was focus on reading paper books mostly, entirely for 3hours and 56 mins, then checked my email notifications etc - once in the evening .

‘And like that is a type of philosophy i was thinking about publishing on:

trying to in the earlier hours of day read paper books study.

then afterwards ‘ create things ‘ such as post content online which can - lead to making money.

that is a question key i have : how do i balance my activities of making money with studying : which is probably better much asked on a different website?

do you have any idea which website would be good for these questions? thanks.”

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I feel mentoring you should be interesting.

I will just give you some guidance enough to get you started. The only thing I am asking from you is to DO it few times and only ask further.

Imagine a sunny day and you in your reading table. What reading material do you see in the table? Are they different than what your are reading now or are they same?

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‘magine a sunny day and you in your reading table. What reading material do you see in the table? Are they different than what your are reading now or are they same?’ it was raining today , today I just had ‘ the ideal realized by mitch horowitz

and making friends ‘ by Dale carnege two books

those are those are the 2 books I did today.

I think your trying to write you would be willing to mentor me?

But didn’t want to answer another question - if you are on any other websites?

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Haha. You are too challenging man. Just forget about all the questions you had as of now. I am not on any websites. I had asked you to DO it few times and only then ask me. So that is the rule. Let us agree on that as a gentleman.

Can you imagine your best friend sitting on your reading table?.

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right i agree i need to take responsibility.

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one of the main things I saw above is : “P.S.

One of my ideas also - was posting in the ‘ journal section’ - if it applies more to what I’m write I’m trying to do with this post, but I will see how this goes for now …” and I could start that tommorow?

or is it more important i do the x tasks with reading other fourm users posts here? I was trying reading it digitally - But Tim De Moss said ‘ you cannot read information digitally, must always read with a paper format- is that a problem? heard , thanks in advance”

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“magine your best friend sitting on your reading table?.” what do you mean by that? am i missing something?

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I think he is offering to help you learn the method of loci (memory palace technique) and is giving you a series of visualization exercises that you can try, at least as a way to figure out how to start with the explanation of the technique. (Arun512, correct me if I’m wrong.)

If you answer the questions, there will probably be some more questions.

If you want to learn more about the method of loci, there’s also a description in the free ebook.

There is some research that says reading on paper is better for retention than reading digitally, but I wouldn’t take the idea too far. I think that reading digitally is better than not reading at all.

There’s an article about a person who read 200 books per year. If I recall correctly, he used all different kinds of formats to consume books (paper, Kindle, audio) depending on what was convenient at the moment.

Related forum sections that might interest people:

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Yes and thank you.

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‘it wouldn’t feel right if I wrote your welcome

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It would be much more easy if you had just answered what I asked. I know that I do not know to better communicate with you. Just for an instance please answer me what I asked. I want to figure how you imagine and than will mentor you accordingly. I have this frustration when you do not answer what I asked you. I just want to get you initiated in Method Of Loci. So,

The question still holds.

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thanks for your reply here

I had not idea - there were those 3 other sections on the fourm

I just clicked open that ‘200 books per year article’ …

TODAY- i read for 4-3 hours 1 book mainly

“There is some research that says reading on paper is better for retention than reading digitally, but I wouldn’t take the idea too far. I think that reading digitally is better than not reading at all.” it was just a voice in my head? I could link Tim De Moss original video ‘or just tell you to find the title ‘ How to book annotate ‘

  • where in it he gave specific details such as : use a sharpie pen.
  • only use 2 types of main markings for highlighting’s of two key symbols- and since I saw that 1 video i was trying following it 100% ish ? (and felt its actually helped my reading a certain amount (and sort of fearing - looking at any digital books , especially audio books
  • “tim actually made another video’ why reading paper books is specifically important, I could link to you* - where he claims that having a physical book in say your house’ is much better than a digital version- because when you look at it say in your bedroom each day- it stays in your thoughts? - not allowed to inlucide links so just search “why you should OWN books // reasons to read” (you have to copy and paste that manually) there’s the video link (to the 2nd video)” thanks