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Thanks a lot !!! ā¦will try it out 
Is there any danger of landscape overlap, suppose if i imagine first locus as mountain and it gets repeated say at 20 th loci. wont i become confused ā¦
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You might not get confused. Because mountain-1 will not have the same surrounding,position and shapes like mountain-2. Visualize them differently and with separate attributes.
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@user_7e, do you give name to your imagined locations or things? For example, āMountain-1ā will be named as āHeraā and āMountain-2ā will be āZumiā! Or,give āarea-1ā one label/name/tag and āarea-2ā another label/tag/name?
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Hooooooly sh**, thatās a lot. Still sorting through it- cool if I ask you more questions if I have any after?
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This is an amazing observation as I have experimented heavily with this. Yes beyond 4 there is indeed āchunkingā into 2ās and 3ās and 1ās. A 5 is either 2+3 or 2+1+2
I read somewhere that our working memory might be 2+2, 2 for each hemisphere of the brain.
Anyhoo, Iām also not sure why 3 seems to have a special quality of being very memorable.
Iāve always been curious, should I do 3ās, 2ās, or 4ās (2x2)?
That 2x2 question brought me to a couple of other questions,
what about the 3x3 or even 4x4?
What about 5? 2+1+2?
Or 7? 3+1+3?
Or 8 in a way of 2+1+2+1+2?
I think 2+1+2+1+2+1+ā¦ this kind of 2+1 chain is special because you can make overlapping 3ās
Overlapping 3ās: 2+1+2 = (2+1)+2 = 2+(1+2)
Or you can see it: (2+1)+(2+1)+2 = 2+(1+2)+(1+2) as a shift
Itās kind of like having āpivot lociā that are shared between two 3ās
Each 2-pair will pivot two different onezees 2+1 and 1+2
Each 1-solo will pivot two different pairs 1+2 and 2+1
I also wondered what would happen if you āsustained an imageā for, say, 1 minute or longer in memory, would that be better than āflashing aroundā a whole bunch of times?
Well it seems that āflashing aroundā in memory makes the connections between things faster, and on the other hand āsustainingā a single thing in memory makes that one single thing possibly go much deeper in general effect on all memory. The idea is that sustained imagination could be tapping into a more unconscious level, where it can āCome Back On Its Ownā so to speak. Kind of like how some inspiring event can change how you behave, and it will be repeatedly recalled over and over again naturally without any deliberate intention to do so, maybe reappearing in Dreams, etc. Thatās just the idea. Although āzipping aroundā memory back and forth, I feel that it helps me understand the memory palace much faster, but Iām afraid that the memory palace could become ābubble-ifiedā e.g., when Iām in the memory palace, I zip-and-zoom quickly around all loci all cool-like, and yet when Iām not thinking about the memory palace ā Iām not sure how deep it penetrates into the general psyche. It could penetrate deep. I really donāt know. Although the meditative āsustainingā, I think that might go deep for sure. The thing about the subconscious, is that I really have no idea whatās going on there. So you can experience something and think āAll is good! Iām okay! I survived it!ā, and deep underneath, who knows? Itās pretty important to be careful about that lack of awareness. I mean, you wake up from a Dream, and itās like, youāre curious to know what was going on there. Dreams are a big deal, how we have them, their meanings, etc. Weāre preparing for that lack of awareness. Who knows how deep it goes? Have some love in my emotions and thoughts. That lack of awareness is quite shocking. All that meditation, imagination, memory, dreams, emotions, meanings, etc, thatās all pretty crucial to soft tender existence. Iām just a small person in a huge world of possibility. Iām trying to get on that healing and positive love. So meditating on some healing, positive love, emotional healing, mental healing, social healing love, spiritual healing love, in my mind, in my memory, hopefully all that love can all go deep, who even knows what can happen! Love is love
I loved your research and Iām sorry for the inconvenience, I have a question. could you explain to me how you do it? I want to try the same as you. It took me a while to understand how you did it
Thank you! Just what I needed. Im taking up memory palace again. I have read many instructions on how to make a memory palace. This is the best one.
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How to make imaginary memory palaces:
While I have highlighted all the things I have particularly done, some of the problems I ran into and how I fixed them, experimenting on your own or with others is always a good thing.
3 main method versions but the general principle is:
Construct a location you have never seen before, a product of your imagination, its okay to make sums of locations, you can start right away on the path, from something silly like the inside of an apple or even a flying fortress.
A : Next you open a word document or something you can take notes with, anki is not good for this unless you use bursts and note down bursts of locations on anki.
You start mentally walking through your location making new locations immediately after it that lead on but are not just the same location over a large field, you then mini note them down something like ā1. mountain rocks,2. lava plainā will be sufficient.
You do this for the next 30-50 (if starting new), 200 or even 500 locations if you feel confident.
You then review, if you canāt recall something you look back at your notes, you can also quickly recall by looking through your notes and visualizing along, but the goal of this is trying to do it until you can recall without the aid (usually after the first time its fine and if not you always have the aid).
B : Next you open a word document or something you can take notes with, anki is not good for this unless you use bursts and note down bursts of locations on anki.
Here you quickly make as many locations as you can leading on from your current one in the form of traversing (try not to make too many something like 10 which you can remember is actually fine), the condition is for this to be a chunk you can remember so you shouldnāt be doing this for a minute or even 30 seconds, speed is key here.
Then as part of the review you note these down and repeat the process for new locations leading on from those,
You review the chunks or bursts as I call them in a spaced repetition fashion.
C : Essentially method B without writing anything down, just relying on the fact that if you review things before you forget them you will not forget them at all, and that forgetting is dependent on time , reinforcement or strength and interference.
- Well Iām new to this memory palace thing, what I didnāt understand is āhow do you do itā. I donāt know if itās okay, what I understood is that you do, letās say, around 10 mental palaces and then in each mental palace you add 3 locations, so this would give a total of 30 locations, I understood maybe only a little because Iām a beginner, but I would like to practice imaginary places . Iāve been looking for a study method for 2 years that I like and yours seemed incredible to me because of how you continued to develop it.
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how do you generate the locations?
i have tried to make imaginary journeys in the past but they all looked similar and i got confused how do i prevent this and may i ask, approximately how many imaginary journeys have you made?
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and how would you go about creating imaginary buildings, towns, and cities while making them realistic and unique
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one thing i struggle with is when i am creating a town or city i see the exact same image for every concept e.g in building A the bedroom has a bedside table, bed, a desk, a wardrobe and in building B the bedrooms is the same.
To sum up if i reuse a concept like a bedroom or a bathroom it ends up looking the same as one i have made before, how do i avoid this?
can you give an example of one of your journeys please?
Your method has been working splendidly but if I were to perform this on a larger scale I would need to how I can keep track of the palaces e.g do I keep them in my head and how would I do that or do I write them down in a notebook and do you name your palaces?
I didnāt quite understand your method of reviewing can you explain it in more detail please?
Do you name your palaces?
for method 3 do i review locations in chunks( of 10) and do i memorise the information as i create the locations
how do you stop yourself coming up with the same journeys by accident because I created an elaborate mansion but now when i try create a mansion i end up creating the same one
When I learned about Memory Maps around 1996, even after knowing all the theories, I could not remember the mind map I had created, and hence found that method to be not working for me; at that time, I was unaware of why that was.
Many years later, when I landed on this forum and read many posts, one of the posts made me realise that I was missing a significant part of the human experience, and that was the mindās eye.
I am aphantasic (vision, sound, taste, all types), and I find this imaginary creation of location difficult and daunting. Is there any aphant reading this post who can confirm with me or share experience so I know whether this is just my inability or a pattern for aphants?
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