If your gap between any two numbers is more than 15 seconds, the attempt is over, at least if you follow Guinness’ guidelines.
Mr Akira Haraguchi had multiple onigiri and toilet sessions, and I’m not even sure if he bothered applying for Guinness.
BTW, how do you setup a poll??
If you perfectly practiced all digits,why do you fear of15 sec gap??
You perhaps dumbed the issue down to only a time investment issue. There are plenty of other variables including but not limited to the issue of repetition of images (100,000 / (1000 x 3) = 33 repeats per image on average while for the WR your image probably repeat once or twice), the problem of retaining of the numbers over a long period (you only need to retain the numbers for the two-hour recall time in hour numbers), the amount of loci required (11,111 if you place 9 per locus) and having to sit through ~14 hours (if you recite at 2 per second).
That’s 4 variables there. Also it certainly wouldn’t be 22 hours since you’d need a lot more review attempts than the hour numbers event, but rather multiple times of that.
All is easier said than done. Perhaps all of you should try for the 100,000 record, at least coming up with a proper strategy if you could. As in post #21, if one is not a two-card user, then one’s shot at a sub-10 speed cards only exist one hit the bed at night. (sweet dreams)
Maybe I said it imperfectly, but I totally agree with you. I was just pointing out the fact that someone can remember 4xxx digits in an hour does not mean in any way that 100k digits is easy. It’s a completely different exercise indeed, as it was said earlier in the conversation. As well as the fact that someone can run 9.58 on 100m does not mean that the marathon can be done in 9.58s*422=1 hour and 8 minutes. The same (or close) applies to the loci, the retain time and the repeating images, as you said : it’s all significantly harder and longer.
I will learn 10k, probably will push up to 15 or 20k. I’ll see for bigger numbers after. Wish me luck : P
I tend to intuitively agree with you on this, but the current WR for speed cards of 12.74 seconds by Shijir Erdene Bat Enkh was supposedly done with a 1 card system. (PAO). If 12 seconds is possible but sub 10s isn’t, then where is the limit? Or is it possible that Shijir was secretly using a more complex system and not PAO?
Actually it is more like asking whether running 100m in 7 seconds is more impressive than running a marathon across many years. Of course the former is more impressive than the latter.
Try again now, and it should work.
Shijir’s record perhaps more or less approached the limit for a one-card user. (0.245 per card) Even more impressive if one remembers that it was done with a physical deck of cards.
I have a feeling a sub-10 speed cards is within reach when the sport ‘ripens’. (post #7 for calculation) It’s still a pretty young game I’d say and records are being broken every year. As an analogy, maybe in its early teens?
Maybe someone will come up in a few years time and prove us all wrong and show that a sub-10 speed cards is within man’s capabilities. 
Nah, mate. It certainly ain’t a sub-7 100m. Refer #7 for the math.
It’s only 26 images for a two-card user and a sub-10 Memory League 80 digits (80 / 3 = 26.7) has been done.
BTW, just to add, there has certainly been more pi memorizers than one would like to believe. One wouldn’t be taken aback if proven that more have attempted pi memorization than cards memorization. On pi-world-ranking-list, there are ~2400 attempters already, most, pretty much all I’d say, of them non-competitive. More if you consider those who’ve not submitted (you have to complete a form according to the rules, apparently?)
I said 7 sec for 100m because (like a 10 sec speed cards) it would have been 2 sec less than the world record. No more thought then that went into it. I’m sure you’re right though that 7 sec is way too low. I just know nothing about sprinting so I based my estimate off that. My point was that It wouldn’t be right to compare 9 sec 100m (which has been done) with a 10 sec speed cards, which we haven’t come close to and may not be achieved for many years (if at all)
My bad then. I comphrehended it wrongly.
But then again, this game is relatively young and there are probably not a whole lot of two-card users, at least as a percentage of all athletes.
Maybe eventually we’ll see a sub-10 speed cards (perhaps digitally since you’d have to fan at such a high speed with a physical deck) when the sports ripens up.
I think it’s the 10 seconds for sure. While memorizing 100k digits is certainly impressive, I believe this has more to do with repetition than anything else.
10s cards is such insane skill.
Can I ask who achieved the sub 10 sec numbers score on ML and when? I did a quick check of some of the top athletes best scores and checked a few "memory league world record’’ threads on this forum but haven’t found a time that low yet
@AndreaMuzii did it.
The link is:
Well, I suppose we all can conclude that both are difficult in their own respects. Perhaps someone of G.O.A.T. caliber will come up and unify both records along with ‘Most Decks of Playing Cards Memorized in a Single Sighting’ (another tough marathon record)
I predict this to happen within a few years.
Ah, ok. He did it in training which is why it wasn’t shown as his top score when I checked. Thanks
I don’t know why I got so annoyed at your comment, but I did. It’s not easy. The memo part might feel easy if you just extrapolate linearly and assume that you have plenty of time (many months, more likely years) to dedicate to it, but these are not givens. The recall is also harder than it seems, be it done out loud or the way Jonas did it. A tiny mistake and you’re out. Do you have any plan to try it? If not please do not diminish the past accomplishments or the future ones…
Yes ,thanks,I planned to try by next year!!
How many digits do you know rn ? How many are you learning per day/week ? What’s your number system and what technique do you use ? I’d be glad to hear about it : )
Haha,2 digit system right now,but I don’t know the pi digits,I planned to use 3 digit system and place 10 images per locus so I need to just 3333 locus to finish the task,I will start the work by early 2022
Ten images per locus ???