Update on 2-Card System with 91 images

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A couple of months ago I made this post about a two-card system with just 107 images. I have some updates on this I’d like to share which should make it even easier to apply (and to have even fewer images). Rather than recap and explain what I’ve changed, I’m just going to explain the entirety of the newer version here.

What this system does is encode the suits and values of a pair of cards in two pieces of information, but it does so in a way that I would still consider it a two-card system. First, each pair of values is given an image. The order does not matter, so pairs like Jack-8 and 8-Jack have the same image. This takes 91 images.

For the suits, each suit is assigned two attributes. They can be whatever you like, but for me I chose a color (red, green, blue, yellow) and an ‘element’ (earth, air, fire, water). These should always come in the same order so you know which suit was the first card in the pair. For me, I always put the element first. So if I see in my image the element for clubs and the color of spades, I know the first card was a club and the second was a spade.

At this point in your images, you can encode the values of both cards and the suits of both cards (as well as the order of the suits). The only thing left to encode is which card value came first – the lower or the higher one. If the higher card comes first, I place the image at a new locus. But if the lower card comes first, the image goes at the same locus as whatever previous image I just placed. The only problem this presents is if in the very first pair, the first card has a higher value, but in this case you can just skip the first locus or find another simple solution like that.
**Also, it should be noted that if a pair of equal-value cards come up, you can do with them whatever you like. Since you know the order of the suits already, this doesn’t present any problems.

I should note that when combining your image for the values with the attributes from the suits, I do so in a way that makes it all one ‘image’ in my head. So for example, I might imagine an object turning into yellow dirt, or catching fire with blue flames. By combining everything I have mentioned above, this is a functioning 2-card system with just one image per pair, and it only requires 91 images.

Please give me any feedback you might have on this system, I want to make it as easy to use as possible. As I mentioned in the first post, this is a good alternative for people who want to try out a 2-card system, but don’t want to spend the time to come up with as many images as they can take. It’s very lightweight, and that’s what I like most about it. Also if you have suggestions for different ‘attributes’ to assign to the suits, those are welcome as well.

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I really like the concept that you are playing with. I think it could work but have to create the system to see if it works. The main goal of the system is to remember the order of the cards, from 1 to 52 and 52 to 1, right?

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When you use a PAO system, you combine the P, the A, and the O from 3 cards into a single compound image (one ‘image’ in your head); still a single card system, not a 3-card system… just like yours is not a 2-card system!

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Well, I recommend you to view this link Neues Kartensystem - Brainboard - Gedächtnis, Lernen, Mnemotechnik which contains information about a 1.5 card system that can be extended to a 3 card system and I think in this system the hearts,spades etc are modifiers for the numbers of cards and while I could not understand the full system I have read that this system contains an error correction mechanism,

And I believe that if the first idea is added to your system with some modifications then the number of images needed for your system will be reduced and also if the second idea is added to your system then your system can have an error correction mechanism which will increase recall,

Cheers.

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I take it you don’t speak any German… because that is absolutely not what it says!

No they’re not, but since Jack, Queen, and King also get assigned a digit between 0 and 9 (just like the cards from A - 10) there are two different set of suits to determine whether ‘9’ is supposed to be a nine of a Jack.

No, it does not

No kidding. The system is basically…

  1. have an existing 1,000 (3-digit) system
  2. convert the values for 3 cards into an image
  3. convert the suits for 3 cards into an image

two images for three cards is thus a 1.5-system (in a way). You should probably have a look at the shadow-system youself, because by simply adding ~300 images to your 1,000 system, you have a unique image for every two cards, i.e. a 2-card system.

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Well, I believe that by using this system a person can corrects errors as this system has “built-in” error correction in that article,

And also I wrote that this system can have an error correction mechanism,and I believe that can in English Language also means may and I wrote this because I was unsure whether by adding this idea this system can have an error correction mechanism by adding the second idea or not
Which I think it can.

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@KevinPhilip, Yes, the objective of this system is to memorize the order of a deck of cards.

@bjoern.gumboldt, thank you for the explanation of why this isn’t a 2-card system. I wasn’t sure before, but your explanation by comparing it to PAO makes a lot of sense and it hadn’t crossed my mind while making it.

@aicreator, thanks for the link! That was an interesting read, it’s a clever and relatively simple solution to translating cards to numbers. I may try it out if I get the chance.

@bjoern.gumboldt, do you know of a link to an explanation other than the original for the shadow system? I’ve read Tschirhart’s original description many times, but I’m having trouble understanding exactly how it works.

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Well below is a link in which I told a person how to combine three images into one and I do combine three objects into one object but I get confused on their order when I attach them to one or more similar pegs such as my right and left hand but this is not a problem with The Shaper System and I request you to visit this topic and read post number 156 which I believe will give you many good ideas and also,You will get a batch if you will read the whole topic

Cheers.

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And @bjoern.gumboldt If in a card system thee images are combined into one does that make that that system a three card system ?.

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No, it doesn’t

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@aicreator

if you are using 1 image for 1 card,
and then link 2, or 3 cards to get the end results, it is still a one card system.

If you are using 3 card, and you link 3 cards as PAO, it is still a 1 card system.
Simply because each of your card would have;

Person - 1 Image
Action - 1 Image
Image - 1 Image

2 Card system is;
2 cards = 1 image without the need of linking other actions or objects.

Let’s say you have the following cards as an example;

5​:spades: 2​:spades:

:spades::spades: : S
5: U
2: N

The above pair would give you a single image.

5​:spades: 2​:spades: : SUN

The above is an example of a 2 card system.

It’s the same as Number digits.

If a system is a 2 digit system, it would mean;
you have 2 digits such 00 which would represent a single image.
Same as the shaper system. It’s a 2 digit system.

If you have a 3 digit system
you would have 3 digits for each image.

If you memorise 00 12, so you memorise 4 digits at a time;
This would still be a 2 digit system because you use 2 digits for each image.

If you memorise 000 123 345, so you memorise 9 digits at a time;
This would still be a 3 digit system because you use 3 digits for each image.

The idea is to compress more digits or cards into a single image. And this enables to memorise more digits or cards at a time.

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Getting somewhat off the topic, but I think it’s safe to say that a 3-card system will never be feasible.

52 x 51 x 50 = 132,600 images, and even with various tricks that can reduce the number of images by a small factor, that’s way too many images to become instantly familiar with.

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