Type of three-digit system to build?

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I am wondering the type of three-digit system I should build (not conversion process!!!:upside_down_face:). I mean I’m wondering if I should create both Person and Object for each number so as to always transform a sequence of six digits to someone performing an action with an object

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I randomly assign people and objects singly to numbers so that any of these can occur for a six digit number: OO, OP,PO,PP. I believe this would lead to more interesting images than a predictable PO system not to mention that I will finish my system building and begin to drill it. I’m a bit scared of the time that may be needed to visualise a PP though which isn’t logical because I LOVE using people for concepts.

I would love your thoughts on this, maybe some analysis of the pros and cons of these different methods so as to make informed choices.

Thanks.

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If I was a native english speaker and wanted a three digit system I would immediately start with the Ben system.

I feel like it is a lot more straightforward than any combination of persons, actions and objects.

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I’m apologize-I’m late to the game on this one. What Ben System are you referring to and (briefly)how does it work?

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The one that assigns vowel sounds to numbers as well, so each three digit number has a pronunciation. The English counterpart of the ZINA Major.:smiling_face:

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Thanks for your response, I mentioned that I was looking for a list type to build, not a conversion process. I of course have a version of the Ben system adapted for Igbo language called ZINA Major​:smiling_face: but I don’t want to build a list based on only that​:upside_down_face:.

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some people say objects are easier to visualise than people. I think it depends on the object and the person and your individuality

I think its pretty rare for a person to spend the time to make a P and O for a 3 digit

Some PP combinations will be hard and some easy

Ive read of 5, 10, 30 or 50 percent P to O ratio, all from the fastest memorisers in the world with 3 digit

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i’m a pretty average numbers memorizer, i would say my 000-999 is about 30% P, 70% Other (mostly object, but some just random word or adjective)

my system follows a strict major:
0 - S
1 - T
2 - N
3 - M
4 - R
5 - L
6 - J
7 - K
8 - F
9 - P

I’m saving the rest of the sounds to build out a 2-card system eventually, and then the world will be my oyster. but filling in those sound combinations has led to some pretty big reaches word-wise, so it’s not super useful to compare to PAO

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Sorry, I didn’t really understood what you meant by that because in my mind a “conversion system” as you call it is like the most basic step to make any kind of list where words correlate to specific numbers.

Like, without a conversion system aren’t you just pairing numbers with words without any sort of criteria? I feel like with that you kinda miss the point of mnemonics, as remembering thousands of images that have no sort of criteria in their creation seems like a massive waste of time.

That’s just me though, sorry I couldn’t be of help.

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I think clarence means, how should he design it. What should be in it. Should it be people, sports people, characters or objects and what type of objects. For example, you can have objects from around the house or vehicles or sporting equipment. And others of course

By conversion system i think clarence means he doesnt care about the phonetic rules as that is already figured out

The thing with a system as well is how easy are your images to link whther visually or conceptually

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If you search “artofmemory Ben system” in google you’ll find an article explaining it.

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Thanks, that’s exactly what I had in mind​:smiling_face:.

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It may depend if its a two or three digit system, what type of ratio you could have. But i guess its just good to try a few different things to see what you like

Its probably not a specific ratio number that is inportant but just a range

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