Try practising alot. When I first started the system of visual mnemonics worked but wasn’t extremely clear picture but now they have grown a lot more vivid. Bonne chance (good luck)
To effectively enter the inner world of pure visualization there are many conditions that need to come together but generally all that is needed is effort, practice and basic skills.
Basic skills such as illuminating all the senses that are involved with the object.
1: Know the objects basic level: A piece of rope, it is thick, brown, rough, stale smelling, it looks old and worn, it has a history.
Play with it: What can you do with it in an ordinary way? I see it i create a horizontal line, i turn it into a circle, i make it spin and tie a knot.
Now you will be more warmed up and in the zone you can move on to actively use the imagination and go extra-ordinary. It then starts to hover, it turns into a ring of fire (go back to step 1 if needs be) it then becomes a square, then it becomes more 3-d like, it grows into a tree etc etc. It is floating in the air, singing a song, you speak with it, etc.
The trick is to move from ordinary to extra-ordinary in a step process but use 1 object that you become familiar with to get you into the zone, once in that zone everything is easy to visualize and concentration naturally develops. Jumping straight into it tends to feel a bit more out there and forced and usually the gap seems to great.
My ritual is using a circle until i can make all kinds of stuff happen, i find myself disappear and everything is within my mind.
I wasnt really able to visualize. The first thing that i did and that helped: when driving in traffic (most often when i was in a traffic jam), i played a game where i imagined the cars having a different color. ex. When there is a blue car, i imagined it being yellow etc… I did this for several weeks.
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Great tips everybody!
I would recommend the book: “Mind and Memory training”, by Ernest Wood. It is an old book (published in 1956) with sound advices regarding visualization. It is available in ebook. It was recommended on Brainboard.de and now I know why.
read this thread. hope it helps
Thanks, I love those old memory books. It was only $4 us at Amazon on Kindle. The feats of the Memory Men of India were impressive. It would be fun to set up challenges like those in Chapter 19.
How about changing your life style itself? for the sake of better visualization. I think that most people find it hard to Visualize vivid and compelling images because they are surrounded by rich Images all the time. You could try slowing down/ shutting yourself from those images. Stop watching the TV for instance. Throw away the iPad that you are using in favor of a much more subtle reader(like an e-Ink reader.) Start eating bland food. So that when you occasionally eat something spicy/tasty. You could associate it with a particular memory. These are somethings that I have started trying out and I intend to try even more tactics.
I bought Ernest Wood’s Mind and Memory Training if one person wants to try to borrow it on the Kindle reader. I can only lend it once for two weeks.
When you guys visit your loci, do you see what you’ve stored there from the start? I only just started practicing for my first time today (starting with cards) after stockpiling palaces for a little while. I was happy to make it slowly through a half deck with 100% accuracy by the end of the day, but I found that I see each locus then that jogs my memory about who/what I put there, then that jogs my memory about what card that stands for. Is this normal or should I be seeing who/what I put in each locus from the get-go?
(sorry if I should’ve made a new thread, it seemed like it went with the subject line)
Personally i picture something in a memory palace quite vividly, then when i visit it again i tend to just know what is there most of the time
In my experience mental images are quite foggy most of the time. I can see the overall shape and maybe two or three details, but that’s it.
Some time ago I figured out a method to sharpen these pictures that works at least for me. It is a modified version of Win Wengers image streaming. It indeed worked so well that after just a few days my images turned into kind of pseudohallucinations. They were as vivid as real objects, hanging in the air in front of me even with open eyes. For example I saw the head of a cheetah, including the exact pattern of the fur. It was so creepy that I got scared and stopped.
Sure, enhanced visualization sounds cool, and maybe it helps to improve memory. But since then I think that it can also be a curse.
Could you explain the technique? Is it based on this? I would like to try it.
Yes, this was my starting point. The inventors website is a bit chaotic in my opinion, fortunately it’s not the only how-to in the net. For example also take a look at this blog article which gives a good introduction. Image streaming is all about verbally describing the mental images that come into your mind. I strongly advice to try the standard version first.
Thanks, I’ll give it a try.
@Josh Cohen: It has been a while now, and I’m a curious person. Did you give it a try?
I tried to reproduce the effect in January, but to no avail. It just didn’t work anymore. So I spent the past few months experimenting with modifications in order to find out what was different. (No zooming in and out because it destroys the sense for proportions … no, makes no difference. Waiting for the pictures to appear out of the visual noise that you see when you close your eyes … no, didn’t work too. And so on.) Today it finally happened again, yet the state is very volatile. Seems that there are several prerequisites that I have to figure out one by one
Just a little, but not enough to see an improvement. I just made a note to try it regularly.
Done! I think I know now what to do and how to do it in order to get hold of this state. But damn, I forgot how weird it is. My mental images started to feel more realistic than real objects. (I think it is because they are totally in my mind so I can ‘see’ the whole picture sharply. Real objects on the contrary are subject to lower acuity in the peripheral vision field.) Usually my mental images are foggy and what I see with my eyes is keen. But it feels like this is reversed. The real world then looks blurred, except for a little spot.
Did anyone else here experience something like this before?
I tried to combine the technique with my mnemonic systems, but it didn’t work yet. Whenever I play on ML, my mind quickly switches back to normal mode. Wouldn’t you know it. One problem solved, next one arisen.
Please don’t ask how the technique works. I’m not ready yet to give it away.
That’s interesting. I haven’t experienced any visualizations that seem real.