Symbiosis between memory sport and zen meditation

I’ve been practicing zen meditation for 25 minutes a day since December 2020, and after a year of that I began training in memory sport, developing a 100 point major system and a 100 point PAO. I’m curious if anyone else participates in both pursuits and has noticed how they both feed off each other so naturally.

Zen is very difficult at first. Because we so rarely focus on doing or thinking absolutely nothing, when we try to implement a zen practice it can be one of the most strenuous things we could possibly do. Hopefully though, if you can discipline yourself enough to go through the motions regularly a breakthrough eventually occurs, seemingly out of nowhere. This leads you to say to yourself “Oh…that’s what zen is all about”. But once you’e had that thought, the effect is lost (remember you’re not supposed to be thinking anything at all).

D.T. Suzuki claimed that zen’s main contribution to buddhism was the use of koans. Examples of famous koans include sayings like “What does the sound of one hand clapping make?” or “What did my face look like before my grandfather was born?” But the introduction of koans into buddhism wasn’t without controversy. The fact that they pass from one generation to the next inevitably gives the impression that there is some wisdom contained within the content of the statement. This is a misunderstanding. Koans are meant to be seen more as a snapshot of one particular monk’s attainment of enlightenment. You get a better idea of its purpose from the story of the Flower Sermon. The original Buddha was going to give a sermon and a bunch of people came to hear him. But when he got there he didn’t say anything, he just held up a flower. Everyone was baffled, then one monk started clapping because he understood completely. See how much more time that story took to tell than one of the koans?

Koans undergo the same process of all ideas attractive enough to survive multiple generations. At first they enter collective consciousness because they’re so revolutionary. Once their embedded in collective consciousness their revolutionary fervor diminishes simply because they become so commonplace. They’re essentially reduced to platitudes that everyone can recite but nobody really thinks about.

When we use memory to aid the acquisition of knowledge, our success depends on our ability to model the data we see into predictable patterns. The more different types off models we’re able to apply in different ways, the more comfortably we’ll be able to live 99% of the time.

But the map is not the territory. Too much reliance on model thinking can lead so-called “overeducated” people to have an underdeveloped ability to regulate the sensory input constantly being received from the world as they physically experience it. This becomes a self-perpetuating problem as their lack in confidence for their sensory perceptions causes them to rely on their models ever more heavily. This leads to disaster when something unexpected happens that can’t be explained by one of their models.

During catastrophe, someone suffering this fate will often retreat ever more heavily into their models the more they’re proven to be unreliable. Unfortunately, the end result of this is that the pursuit of knowledge becomes branded as a pursuit reserved for cowards. Zen practitioners knew this so they developed a discipline to practice transcendence of model thinking. You won’t know the secret to the universe once you can properly imagine what one hand clapping sounds like. You’ll only achieve that enlightenment once you can properly imagine what one particular guy felt when he could actually imagine it.

I think that memory sport can not only achieve what koans are meant to achieve, it can do so more effectively. Admittedly, I have an extremely limited experience using a PAO or memory palaces. But when considering what it is that makes them so effective, my relationship with zen can’t help but influence my understanding. The images used for memorization are most successful when they go against the models I’m accustomed to seeing the world through. They’re superior to koans because while koans may have to be meditated to be understood, the irrational logic used to drill or compete can be summoned at will.

Zen practice is focused on disciplines that empty our consciousness of models. The rituals performed by monks and the koans they meditate upon are meant to replace those models with an irrational logic that can be sincerely believed in the moment and yet not relied upon in the future (because it’s irrational). If koans are passed to future generations, novices and the uninitiated will assume they can be relied on. But they can’t, because they’e irrational. This is why the introduction of koans into buddhism was controversial. Once a koan becomes known it loses all value.

Memorizing images for memory sport improves upon the practice because its like creating a limitless supply koans at warp speed and then immediately forgetting them. I feel this to be more congruent with what the spirit of the zen practitioners who first introduced the koan. I am new at zen and memory sport, but I feel that if a master practitioner of zen were introduced to memory sport by a competent teacher, he would see it as the next logical step in the evolution of his practice

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One the problems we face when trying to align the outcomes of something like Zen with a spiritual tradition like Buddhism, is that humans build hierarchies around these things. Then they add “levels” and procedures for getting to the “top.”

But if you read most of these traditions, the texts themselves tend to argue that you’re already “enlightened.”

How could any conscious unit not be? You’re either conscious or not, and as the present moment flows by, if you’re “awake” to it, you realize you cannot add anything to it or take anything away. It’s moving too fast.

Meditation is one possible way of realizing this fact about the nature of reality. And there are many different kinds of meditations.

In fact, most people will fall into Task Positive Network processing many times per day, completely absorbed in the moment as they carry out various functions.

This is different than the Default Mode Network brain processing which is all about the me-me-me and I-I-I.

Both are necessary to function in the world, and any meditation teacher worth their salt knows that the “ego” isn’t going away so long as the body remains alive and the brain functions normally.

Anyhoo, minus the “sport” part, I wrote a whole book about the relationship between memory training, meditation and Zen adjacent outcomes from the Vedanta perspective.

The TEDx version has been popular enough to rack up a few million views. Yes, my ego remains intact! :wink:

In the follow-up research and writing I’ve been plunking away on, I’m quite interested in a few things:

  1. The formation of hierarchies around this simple knowledge. There’s a morally disgusting but deeply fascinating and elucidating video on YouTube where the “guru” James Swartz basically says, “Whatever you do, don’t tell them the truth.”

It’s in a three-part series about how to teach Advaita Vedanta. There’s a version of this in all kinds of cults, where aspects of the teaching are “hidden” and placed at the highest “level” for a variety of reasons.

I’m sure it’s not just because some people are villainous and nasty - though that’s probably part of it some of the time. There must be an evolutionary force behind a lot of it, in the same way that ant colonies cook up hierarchies and things like helper ants, etc.

  1. A lot of gurus who claim to be enlightened use their memories a lot - and in a variety of ways. They literally quote things verbatim quite frequently. But they also get tons of memory exercise from repeating the same message frequently, meaning that they must have formed a procedural level “fusion” with the knowledge about the nature of the present moment.

(By this I mean insofar as a 3-pound brain can understand the “nature” of anything!)

In any case, the idea that someone would experience “enlightenment” states after memory training is thoroughly predictable just by looking into Task Positive Network states, or what is often called in common parlance, “flow.”

The trick, and this is where procedural memory training is quite interesting, seems to be maintaining those Task Positive states and building a positive feedback loop. Such a loop would bring that realization and state back to yourself subconsciously/unconsciously/procedurally in the way a martial art’s practitioner would execute just the right move in a particular situation.

In the meditation world, they have many techniques for building such loops, such as labelling. We usually here of labelling techniques for naming unwanted thoughts or negative thoughts. But you can also use them for strengthening Task Positive experiences.

“Deepen deepen” is a good one if you notice a higher level of awareness. In my n=1 experiments, I’ve memorized now 1500 Sanskrit words across 5 Memory Palaces and often just use those to deepen the very effects they helped create.

I find this much more rewarding than memorizing anything else, precisely because there is a feedback loop from the philosophy about the nature of the present moment and the great feeling that being connected more deeply with the present brings.

But as we know, even if they all lead to Rome, there are indeed many roads. So the larger point in all of this is probably setting goals, putting in the practice and mastering whatever that true thing is that you would love to master so you can enjoy positive feedback loops around that.

The Training Effect writ large, but if it’s memory for you, bravo. Better memory will undoubtedly benefit anything else you might wish to train in the future, and if you’re “enlightened,” you’ll probably make a much better choice for the next skill than you might have otherwise done.

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I can only imagine the effect of memorizing 1500 would have on my consciousness, and the main reason I began training in memory sport is that I hope to someday know the feeling. I think that’s true of most people who participate in it. My intention in the comparison between koans and memory sport was to not only demystify zen, but also point out the proximity of training in memory sport specifically to something that might’ve been labelled as a sacred practice in more archaic times. I’d also suggest contrasting memory sport with zen helps us imagine collective zen practice through a more competitive framework, helping to knock it off its pedestal a little. Buddha held up the flower as a model for physical (dare I say athletic) technique during meditation. If you want to get closer to the “correct” consciousness you should sit like a flower. After all, if flowers weren’t hyper-competitive with each other they wouldn’t be beautiful. I think one of the key traits mental athletes share with zen monks is this competitiveness, a feature we can easily miss if we view monks too sanctimoniously.

People with above-average intelligence tend to be more efficient when using their brains, meaning (I think) that they use sucrose more efficiently than those with average or below-average intelligence. One of meditation’s supposed benefits is that people who do it long enough develop increased ability to relax their brains. So if we frame the benefits being sought in either memory sport or zen in purely materialistic terms we’d say they’re trying to process sucrose more efficiently. But the state of flow can be hindered if we assign this goal to our task.

The data memorized in sport is meaningless, which is what makes it so hard to remember. Of course the idea is that the practice will make memorizing meaningful data even easier once we stop competing and get back to the real world. But I think the meaninglessness of the data is what puts it in the same category as the koan. The glory of competition is your feedback loop, if I understand your use of that term correctly. You want to win because, as you say, the ego remains in tact. But if you’re ego is too cumbersome during competition it will be your downfall. You have to find a way to trick you’re brain into getting the desired (meaningful) outcome, all the while experiencing the memorization process as irrational (meaningless).

The primary goal of memorizing and retaining meaningful information is to acquire knowledge. While doing it enough will make your sucrose use more efficient, that is a secondary outcome. I think a mental athlete who trains but doesn’t compete seriously would agree that his main purpose is to build a more efficient brain. Eventually you have to decide if you want to continue training in the sport or if you want to begin spending more time chasing the pursuit of knowledge. In martial arts I’d compare it to a bjj master who’s trying to decide if he wants to continue the infinite process of mastering his current craft, or if he wants to apply what he’s learned to mma. The level of abstraction allowed in mma competition is much lower than bjj both because of its brutality and your opponents increased unpredictability.

I think someone who continues to focus on being a mental athlete is like a modern ascetic. While some will say his talent is being wasted, they’d probably say the same thing about a monk who decides to spend his life in a monastery. A big part of mental sports is the ability to efficiently forget what you’ve learned when you want to clear your palaces. This benefit isn’t experienced by someone who wants to retain everything they’ve learned. On top of that someone who wants to retain meaningful information cannot continue to see it as irrational. The model his new-found knowledge inevitably creates acts as a crutch making his brain have to work less. This isn’t true if the memorization process remains irrational to the very end.

But why should anyone care? The point is that memory sport can make us better able to stay poised against top-down culture figures, especially internet “gurus” who masquerade their shameless vulgarity as authenticity and wisdom. I think mental sports, by temporarily disregarding any attempt at wisdom, keeps one better poised to stand up to such crassness by helping us continually experience what a strange gift it is to be alive. None of this is a game. We can then use this ability to acquire knowledge at our leisure to pursue the questions that truly matter. What’s in outer space? What happens after we die? What do our dreams mean? How do we treat build a more just society? It is like zen in that it is a pursuit of wisdom that pursues wisdom by rejecting the pursuit of wisdom.

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It’s possible that the modern memory athlete is like an ascetic.

Coincidentally, Nelson Dellis released a video where he talks about fusing the “no mind” when he talks about the memory-based meditation book in this latest video of his:

It is perhaps true that few people care about metaphysics and philosophy. But they are affected by them every day, whether they like it or not, know it or not. It would be great if more people turned the memory skills to these matters because it’s hard to imagine being on the brink of WWWIII when our leaders can be satisfied by simply sitting still and contemplating the nature of things.

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Whatever is written of the way, isn’t the way.

I’m not sure that’s the connotation the Taoists are going for.

Rather, when one thinks that anything appearing in the way is not itself the stuff of the way, they are simply failing to notice that that way too is the way.

I’m sure.
Perhaps from another source:
The more you talk and think about it, the further astray you wander from the truth

This depends on the conception of truth.

If it is transcendent, then it is separate and one will always stray from it. This is not what I think the Taoists suggest.

Rather, I think they are talking about what philosophers now call immanence. In this conception, nothing can ever be separate from “truth” because they come into being with one another. Their becoming is entangled.

The latter is more or less what Brother Bruno was going on about with this memory wheels. You cannot “wander” away from “truth” because these very ideas appear in the thing that perceives such ideas.

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Philosophy is the dirt of history.
The more you study the way, the further from the way.

To imagine what the Taoists were thinking I think it best to look at it as a reaction to, or evolution of/from Confucianism. The Confucians were trying to build a bureaucracy. They were doing this to bring stability to a historically unstable area. A noble pursuit. They did this by establishing an elaborate “way of being” that covered almost every aspect of life. Basically they said if you just go through the motions the way we say you should, then by the time your seventy it will come natural to you. It’s easy to criticize such a philosophy like this if you’re lucky enough to be the product of a bureaucratic society “the way” we are.

The Taoists came along after stability had been established and said that conforming so completely to an objective set of rules regarding how we “should be” forces you to disregard your experience of subjective existence. This is a tragedy, and not just because an isolated subjectivity is the only experience of existence any of us will ever truly have.

By the time of the Taoists, Confucianism had established itself so well everyone knew its trappings. Self-servng career-minded bureaucrats knew how to go through the motions in order to attain success. Confucianism achieved stability, but it also provided a guide of etiquette and elocution for people to follow who had no interest in the spiritual salvation it claimed to provide. The Taoists response to this spiritual/bureaucratic practice that was beginning to hollow out was to write it off as a rigorous all encompassing rulebook meant to dictate your every thought and action. To counter it they basically suggested everybody just be cool.

The ones who couldn’t be cool were the ones just going through the motions that you had to worry about. You’ve gone a long way towards fixing the problem if they’ve been exposed. The Taoists were responding to how easy success in their generation was for people with no spiritual attachment to the deeper aspirations of Confucianism. Anyone who’s worked in a bureaucracy knows what they were talking about, because we know that moral fervor in such places is’t an asset but a liability.

So basically a universal agreement about how things ought to be was so successful, it had a natural reactionary movement of people saying “I feel like something isn’t right with Confucianism. Confucianism tells me not to pay attention to how I feel. But if my feelings are right about Confucianism, that’s exactly what I’d expect it to say”.

In memory sport the criteria being memorized is the objective actuality on which we all agree. “The way” the competitors memorize it is their own subjective experience of those numbers. The quicker the athletes are able to memorize the criteria, the more efficiently they’re able to make their subjective experience concur with the objective world. Immortals are the only beings that could have a subjective experience completely identical to the objective world. The only exception I can think of are memory athletes who’re able to achieve their competitive goals in 0 seconds. That will never happen, but 14.55 is pretty close.

Ah, but the question is, what is a “second” and who gets to define it?

“One fundamental thing in mathematics is a point right?”

“Yes.”

“…well…um…how big is it?”

“It doesn’t really have any size.”

“You mean it doesn’t have ANY diameter or thickness?”

“Correct.”

“Then how do you know where it is?”

“@!#!@$!”