Josh,
Thanks for the update. Gosh, i didn’t know they change prices according to country.
Blessings.
Adrian Hanz
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Adrian,what do you suggest for further reading after finishin Peter Kump book ?
Dear @Josh and what is your recommendation instead of using hawerd berg memory pack ?
H just searhed and find jim kwiks course and videos in dep web, that was dissapointed.
but im i dont knnow should i buy bergs memory pack? they cost 1000$,
the proce is not problem,but i waanna save monet.what method or book you suggest me to read intead of wasting money on their memoery packs?
Hey @Zed_Girl ,
I bought Jim Kwik & Howard Berg programs - speed reading & memory stuff.
My recommendation: its not worth the price. I wanted to refund. But then i went beyond the 30 day money back guarantee.
If you look at my previous links, i included Kevin Trudeau memory program.
That one is good enough.
Here it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aykfUGjJVcY&feature=emb_logo
After that, you can try any books by Harry Lorayne and Dominic O’brien.
Harry Lorayne & Dominic Ob’brien books, you can get it for free in pdf.
Just google.
Blessings.
Adrian Hanz
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Hey @Zed_Girl ,
I was diligent to practice Peter Kump’s book, and was able to read at 4,000 words a minute on certain books. That is, books where i am familiar with the subject.
The following book you can get it in pdf…just google.
For this book, just go over to the hand motions which you have not used before. This should give you more techniques.
Also,
Get this book:
Get it in Kindle. It is a summary of all the techniques. I love this book.
This is a book u want to refer to, again and again.
But istis only useful if you have been diligent with Peter Kump’s book.
If you are diligent with all the abovementioned for over a period of 2 years and beyond, you should be reading at over 2,000 words a minute already.
I bought the Photoreading program. Honestly, i think it’s useful, because they introduce a system of speedreading and retention.
However, if you don’t want to spend the money, then all the info you have is good enough.
Also, go to this website. It is a free speedreading online app.
You can go to the settings to increase the reading speed. This will be able to somehow supplement the speed reading exercises which you have been doing.
Eg: if you want to read at 2500 words a minute, You can practice ‘reading’ at 10,000 words a minute. Go to settings to adjust the reading speed to 10,000 words a minute. You can adjust the chunk size to flash 100 words or even more at one go. You can adjust the font size too.
This website is super! And it’s free! I love freebies!
Blessings.
Adrian Hanz
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I tend to be skeptical about extraordinary claims of speed reading.
I left some thoughts about the claim of reading 25,000 words per minute above. 25,000 wpm is impossible unless there are tricks involved, like reading the same word written 25,000 times in a row or magic. Taken at face value 25,000 words per minute is more than 416 word per second, which is physically impossible.
Nodas wrote a good post about speed reading competitions where there are rules and experienced judges to verify things. I think that gives a more realistic picture about what is possible. I’d be skeptical of any claims that go too far beyond what has been performed in front of judges.
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Dear @adrianhanz
1.i got them and finished,but i need some classic books in speed reading to get further info
also do you know How people used spd reading methods in middle ages amd how can i know about this?
2.i have had DR. Scheele books and realy enjoyed,but still i think i need more resources to get could you guide me more please
3.im worried that if missing info that students may get just beacause they pay money to Kwik & Howard Berg programs
best wishes.
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Hi @Zed_Girl
To answer all your questions:
The classic you are referring to could be this one. However, the contents does not come close to Peter Kump. It is a thin book:
https://www.amazon.com/Evelyn-Seven-Day-Reading-Learning-Program/dp/1566194024/ref=sr_1_12?dchild=1&keywords=speed+reading&qid=1608705725&sr=8-12
I have 2 previous posts where i gave alot of guidelines. If you were to follow them, they would take a at least a year for you to condition yourself with these skills.
A book that many professional speedreading trainers read is this one:
https://www.amazon.com/How-Read-Book-Classic-Intelligent/dp/0671212095/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=how+to+read+a+book&qid=1608706262&sr=8-1
As for Dr Paul Scheele’s photoreading program, if you are keen you can actually purchase. ie if you are willing to part with the money. I personally think it is good. There is a 30 day money back guarantee. if you aren’t completely satisfied, you can ask for a refund. This program is good in that you can ask them any questions via email or call, and they will respond.
As for the fear of missing out speedreading info because you think Howard Berg’ & Jim Kwik’s programs may contain secrets not found anywhere else…here is my take. None of them are as comprehensive as Peter Kump. They are of course good in their own way.
Here is the key to speedreading: do all the drills. Do it daily.
If you have read through all of my previous posts and followed the recommendation, it will take you at least 1 year of drills to get good at speedreading.
Actually if anyone had gone through all my posts and do the necessary drills for over a year, they would be able to read over 3,000 words a minute on books that are easy to read. They would also be able to work as speedreading instructors.
Hope this answers your questions.
Hanz
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It’s worth taking a look at NASA’s study on photoreading. NASA found that PhotoReading actually slowed people down and reduced comprehension when they used the technique.
The results for all measures yielded no benefits of using the PhotoReading technique. The extremely rapid reading rates claimed by PhotoReaders were not observed; indeed, the reading rates were generally comparable to those for normal reading. Moreover, the PhotoReading expert generally showed an increase in reading time when using the PhotoReading technique in comparison to when using normal reading strategies to process text. This increase in reading time when PhotoReading was accompanied by a decrease in text comprehension.
Here’s a link to the report:
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Josh, here are case studies of people who prepared for Bar Exam using photoreading.
I have only included one case study.
You can go thru his channel.
Anyway, its up to you to decide if Photoreading is for u…or anyone…
There are even cases studies that prove normal speedreading does not work.
For every approach we believe in when it comes to learning, there are always case studies for and against them.
It’s your choice anyway.
You have the NASA case studies, and there are people who take bar exams using photoreading.
You alone will decide.
Stay cool.
Hanz
Hey Jason,
I was trying to look for some reviews about this guy on Youtube and in pages, but i has been so difficult to find them, since there are a lot of pages that are promoting his courses.
I sure hope someone does put stuff like the people who didn’t get the refund and that his courses are about “what worked for him”
Flou, you can’t deny the testimony of lawyers.
You can’t deny the experience of those who have succeeded.
We need to be willing to stay open to difference experiences even when we don’t agree.
In today’s economy, we need to be prepared for a variety of views.
These are actual persons who have succeeded in their career. Will you deny them?
None of us are in any position to deny another person.
However, we do have the right not to believe.
Having said that, are these beliefs based on facts - experiences which have occurred?
For lawyers to be willing to speak up, this shows that they are willing to put their careers on the line.
Which means they are ready to speak up in a court of justice.
So what we have are two schools of thoughts.
We need to be willing to agree to disagree. Yet we cannot deny the experience of another.
Having said that, are NASA research always reliable?
David Epstein wrote about how NASA solved problems in his book
Range: How Generalists Triumph in a Specialized World
"Specifically, NASA was unable to predict solar particle storms, radioactive material spewed by the sun that can gravely damage astronauts and the equipment they depend on. Solar physicists were understandably skeptical that outsiders could help, but after three decades of being stuck, there was nothing to lose; NASA posted through InnoCentive in 2009. Within six months, Bruce Cragin, an engineer retired from Sprint Nextel and living in rural New Hampshire, solved the challenge using radio waves picked up by telescopes. Pre-retirement, Cragin had collaborated with scientists, and found that those specialist teams often got mired in working out small details at the expense of practical solutions. “I think it helped me being out of that,” he said, “having moved on.” A NASA official noted, diplomatically, that “there was some resistance” to Cragin’s solution at first, “because it was using a different methodology.” That was exactly the point. Still, Appert and Cragin had some tangentially relevant work experience. Other outside-in solvers thrive because they have none at all.
Epstein, David. Range: How Generalists Triumph in a Specialized World (p. 175). Pan Macmillan. Kindle Edition.
In this same book, it was notes that NASA experts used quantitative data. Yet it resulted in accidents.
"There was other important information the Thiokol engineers presented that could have helped NASA avert disaster. But it was not quantitative, so NASA managers did not accept it. The Carter Racing study teaches that the answer was available, if only engineers looked at the right numbers. In reality, the right numbers did not contain an answer at all. The Challenger decision was truly ambiguous. It was a wicked problem, rife with uncertainty, and outside of previous experience, where demanding more data actually became the problem itself.
Epstein, David. Range: How Generalists Triumph in a Specialized World (p. 243). Pan Macmillan. Kindle Edition.
Another reading:
The very tool that had helped make NASA so consistently successful, what Diane Vaughan called “the original technical culture” in the agency’s DNA, suddenly worked perversely in a situation where the familiar brand of data did not exist. Reason without numbers was not accepted. In the face of an unfamiliar challenge, NASA managers failed to drop their familiar tools.
Epstein, David. Range: How Generalists Triumph in a Specialized World (p. 245). Pan Macmillan. Kindle Edition.
The final reading:
The researcher who led that work went on to study thousands of businesses. She found that the most effective leaders and organizations had range; they were, in effect, paradoxical. They could be demanding and nurturing, orderly and entrepreneurial, even hierarchical and individualistic all at once. A level of ambiguity, it seemed, was not harmful. In decision making, it can broaden an organization’s toolbox in a way that is uniquely valuable.
Epstein, David. Range: How Generalists Triumph in a Specialized World (pp. 255-256). Pan Macmillan. Kindle Edition.
All these are taken from Chapter 11: Learning to Drop Your Familiar Tools
Epstein, David. Range: How Generalists Triumph in a Specialized World (p. 233). Pan Macmillan. Kindle Edition.
Question for all of us: Are we prepared to drop familiar tools? Are we prepared to think alternatively and stay open?
No one has the definitive answer. But there are people who have succeeded. We need to learn from those who have failed and succeeded.
I am sure this discussion will always be open ended. However, it is always good to be open to new ideas.
Do read the book Range: How Generalists Triumph in a Specialized World.
Blessings.
Hanz
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Hi Adrian, Thank you for helping this , and I foundthem very good and re- read both, and you know how can i find the most efiictive oof the classic books or articles for motivational texts and success in life that changed the way of your life. Of course, the same kwik courses sometimes covers but we both know that they never tell the main secret
What are your suggestions for reading Which books instead of participating in these paid courses( and wasting money for nothing?
Because I personally am preparing for the hard SAT test of several American universities(harvard and Mit) and I have to read the materials and resources, and I would be grateful if you could guide me from which of the classic books of success or issues that you have concluded, Mersi
and best regards
Hello Hanz,
Thank you for your contributions! I read through them all and copied a quick-reading strategy plan from what you said. I bought the book you mentioned by Peter Kump. Your explanations and stories have helped me not to lose too much money and time. I am very grateful to you for that!
I just saw that you were contributing to teaching your daughter Chinese words. I will read through this as my daughter is learning this language. We are a Dutch German family from France, speak Dutch, German and English and are learning French. In addition, all of my older children learn a different language that they chose themselves. My daughter has been learning Chinese for two years, since she was nine. I am curious what you write about this topic. If you’d like to tell me about it, I would enjoy a recap of the learning techniques you have your daughter use.
Now I some questions about speed reading and photo reading. Before I looked for speed reading, I read Paul Sheele’s book on photo reading. My bottom line was that I should just start and try to experiment to learn how to use it better over time. I also thought that speed reading would help me because of the last step in using the technique. That’s why I looked for that topic online.
You wrote that one wouldn’t need another program on reading, when using the photoreading program. Please tell me if the program adds enough value to the book to buy. Shouldn’t I just practice with the system, knowing the written basics? And if I don’t need another program, what about Peter Kump’s book? Wouldn’t I have to use that and apply its strategies every day to get into speed reading faster?
I also have a question about the Spreed app. I tried it earlier and I doubt whether the speed is right. I can read an amazing amount of WPM :). Is the purchased version better and has added value to buy? It seems to be very practical…
If it can help me to read quickly and absorb it (also in my subconscious - especially books like the Bible and dictionary), I would buy the speed reading program - and also the Spreed app - if you think tey’re beneficial. I look forward to your insights!
Greetings and blessings from France
Yvette Berg
hay there josh do we have any research in Nasa for speed reading it self and what about other insititutes?
and do we have any book about abou:"spped reading not working "?
I’m not sure, but you might be interested in these links:
It is unlikely that readers will be able to double or triple their reading speeds (e.g., from around 250 to 500–750 words per minute) while still being able to understand the text as well as if they read at normal speed. If a thorough understanding of the text is not the reader’s goal, then speed reading or skimming the text will allow the reader to get through it faster with moderate comprehension. The way to maintain high comprehension and get through text faster is to practice reading and to become a more skilled language user (e.g., through increased vocabulary). This is because language skill is at the heart of reading speed.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1529100615623267
College-educated people who fret they read too slow should relax. Nobody reads much faster than 400 words per minute.
Anne Cunningham, a University of California at Berkeley education professor and an expert on reading, reports that tests measuring saccades (small rapid jerky movement of the eye as it jumps from fixation on one point to another) while reading have determined that the maximum number of words a person can accurately read is about 300 a minute. “People who purport to read 10,000 words a minute are doing what we call skimming,” she said. Speed in reading is mainly determined by how fast a reader can understand the words and expressions one is reading. The fastest readers are those with excellent “recognition vocabularies.” Faster readers can see words and understand them faster than slower readers. To improve one’s speed at reading, she says, one should work on comprehension and study strategies (Robertson).
(I don’t think the “words per minute” measurement says much without considering the difficulty of the material and the person’s familiarity with the content, so if one article says that the maximum reading speed for humans is 400 wpm and another says 750 wpm, they might be using different kinds of material and assuming different things about the background knowledge of the readers.)
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Thanks so much for this reply, Adrian. I am interested in improving my memory and was going to buy the course for the memory part. I won’t now as I think I have enough general knowledge on this. The crux is you need to practice and come up with your own drills.
Thanks for the tip!
Excellent post.
Thank you.
My experience is slightly different - but still very positive.
I took the Evelyn Wood Reading Dynamics course in 1973. (I was 22 years old then.)
If I recall correctly, it was 2 in-person classes per week for 6 weeks.
(After you were finished, you could continue to go to support classes indefinitely.
My tested reading level was 1,700 wpm with a retention level in the mid-80% range.
(Testing retention was a standard part of the EWRD process.)
I used the techniques until I was about 40 and then, through laziness, lost my skills.
I’m a very hi-tech guy. (For the last 3 decades, I’ve supported myself writing AI software from scratch.
About 20 years ago when the internet just exploded, I found myself needing to consume a great deal of electronic material, so I committed to re-developing my skill.
I have gotten my reading speed back to about the same 1,700 level, but my retention is just not what it used to be.
BTW, deep topics for me are 400-600 words max.
(Your 4x speech speed makes a bit of good sense to me.)
Used to do a lot of podcasts & vidcasts. These would be transcribed by one of my VAs.
My 43-minute podcasts would almost always come in at 6,250 words. That’s 145 wpm.
4 times that would be 580 wpm, which is right in range with my estimate of 600 wpm reading speed being my upper level of comprehension.
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Me personally feel so lucky to see your post. Great tips!!
It will be very helpful if you Just a few questions.
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Do speed reading levels increase by practicing even after someone has practicing for long time suppose 10 years?? Or it is just get stuck ?
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Is it possible to become world fast reader through practicing like howard berg?
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