Rhyming Letter Getters

Hi Paul, I have not heard of Rhyming Letter Getters would you care to share how the Rhyming Letter Getter system works?

Well upon reflection, I think a good strategy to recall squares, certainly in the range from 32-99 is quite simple. I would simply encode the first three digits of the 4 digit number into ‘major system’ 3 digit code and simply add the last digit by inspection. For example my 73 is GC (George Clooney) I can associate a LeMoN to him (major system to give me 532) and mentally do the 3 x3 = 9 as the last digit. Obviously, numbers squared from 31 down won’t have 4 digits so they can be directly encoded using the major system.

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Sure. It’s a simple number to a single letter type code (like the Dominic System). It’s based on a simple rhyming number/object idea .

1=B because in the simple rhyming Peg system 1 is Bun.

It came about because we found students struggled (at the outset of learning) to remember which numbers related to which number using DS and MS. But we found they never ever forgtot the first mnemonic technique they learned (the rhyming image to represent number).

The rhyming objects were tweaked slightly to ensure no repeated letters and no vowels were used and we ending up with the Rhyming Letter Getters (0=N, 1=B, 2=P, 3=T, 4=D, 5=K, 6=S, 7=H, 8=G and 9=W)

If someone has already the major or Dominic system engrained in their mind, the is no point changing to it, but for new students I always recommend the RLG’s as the easiest number to letter system. :slight_smile:

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That’s a super-easy system to encode numbers to letters thank you for sharing. It has the added advantage of all the vowels not being used and hence available as ‘fillers’. I see 5=K appears to be the odd one out? But I see you can’t have a ‘Hive’ (5) and a ‘Heaven’ (7) both sharing an “H” - the same letter. Was your choice of using a K for a 5 merely arbitrarily chosen or is there some reason you particularly settled on a K for a 5? I would have been tempted myself to have used a “L” for a 5 (as Roman numeral 50 = L) but that’s just a personal preference or embellishment. I like the name too “Rhyming Letter Getters” that certainly has a ring to it. Well done!!

Yes so we made 5 for Knives ( I know hive is the traditional one but we’ve been using Knives now that it doesn’t enter my head any more).

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BTW, there’s your big difference to Major as opposed to Dominic… Major is phonetic and a “knife” would be a 2 because the “k” is silent.

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Yes Major is about sounds - Dominic and RLG’s are about the letters.

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I concede that “Knives” is better than the ‘L’ I suggested as it fits into the overall schema of “Rhyming”. The “RLG” system is a neat little self-contained system. As a matter of interest I also used a rhyming system for Playing Card pegs which I posted on the forum earlier this month. I think there is a natural harmony to “Rhyming” pegword systems, so I’m possibly going to find some use for the “RLG” system somewhere along the line. I also guess if I really wanted to let the ‘L’ into the “RLG” system it could replace the ‘W’, i.e. Line instead of wine? They maybe more English words where ‘L’ is used as opposed to ‘W’ but if you’ve managed to encode squares and cubes, I would imagine the ‘W’ works just 'F’ine (no pun intended)!!

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Really glad you like it, its had amazing feedback from people who have tinkered with other systems. We settled on it because when you’re teaching memory technique it’s a natural progression. We teach the rhyming peg system so student get the idea of linking visually and then when we moved to numbers the rhyming pegs simply become the initials. When teaching playing cards we create a cast list using the RLG’s and then adopt a PA, PAO, PAOQ system depending on whether we are memorising a stack or a shuffled deck. :slight_smile:

From your ‘Handle’ i.e. Magicpauluk, I’m guessing that you have at least one of the following stacks (if not more than one of them?) memorized off pat: Mnemonica, Aronson, Redford or Bart Harding? If you haven’t already developed your own personal stack? I think a very neat trick is (using the coding principles of the ‘invisible deck’) to say have a Mnemonica stack coded whereby your first card (top card) becomes a 9 of Diamond and your last card (bottom card) becomes the 4 of Clubs. It is effectively a Tamariz stack arranged in an ‘invisible deck order’. Of course all the Kings would remain exactly in their respective positions, only their suits would rotate around. i.e. the KH would become the KS, the KD would become the KC, the KC would become the KD and finally the KS would be swopped around with the KH. All other Pairings would follow the rule to sum to ‘13’. Thus, for example a 2 of Hearts would be swopped around with the POSITION of the Jack of Spades. Just a thought??

@Josh might be time to split the topic

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PAOQ? Please allude to what the “Q” stands for in this context

Quote - as in: Quotation, phrase, saying or song. (I believe it was our idea, but I know there are similar) when using a ‘cast’ it allows for eight digits (or 4 playing cards) to be encoded at a time.

I use a similar method to get an additional two numbers in a string of numbers to recall (bringing 6 numbers to 8 numbers) which I called the SCOC method. If you search on this forum using “SCOC method” you’ll come across my idea. L = Location is another parameter that could be used to convert a PAO to a PAOL system. Q (quote) I’ll have to give it a go but there again do I really know what 61 = SA = Steve Austin is famous for quoting? not really, I’m afraid

Like objects and actions the quotes only need be real in your mind. My cast list says and sings some very odd things many of which they have never said in real life. (I don’t know who Steve Austin is so I couldn’t give an example on that one) Just like action and object as long as the user associates the items with the person and they are unique to them (in your list) that’s all that matters. :slight_smile:

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“Stone Cold” Steve Austin was an American Professional Wrestler. who in many quarters was regarded as one of the greatest and most influential professional wrestlers of all time. As famous as he was in his era I can’t say I actually remember anything of significance that Stone Cold Steve Austin can be quoted on but there again, I could use my imagination and invent a quote for him. Something like: “Bring me a chair and a ladder!” as those Pro-Wrestlers would smash chairs and ladders over each others backs. So I guess Q’s may work after all?

Bart Simpson (26) of course would be far easier, as he always said: “Eat my Shorts Man!” for some reason?

That’s exactly it Fred - I have ‘made up’ expressions for quite a few of my cast - all that matters is that I know who they relate to and the quote is only relatable to them. I have Dustin Hoffman saying ‘whose on first’, and I have David Beckham saying ‘I really want an MBE’ (in a squeaky voice) :slight_smile:

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