Remembering Cubes of two digit numbers

Is the PAO the best way to remember the table of cubes? From 47 cubed (AK47 assault rifle) through to 99 cubed (Choc '99), all the answers are 6 digits long, so I am assuming PAO would work well for those answers. From 22 cubed through to 46 cubed, all answers are 5 digits in length so a PA coupled with a number-shape image would work well. From 11 cubed to 21 cube, answers are 4 digits in length so a simple PA would work and I am guessing cubes from 1 cube through to 10 cube are pretty easy to learn rote fashion.

Does anybody have a better method to learn the above table of cubes and commit the answers to long-term memory? I am more interested in learning the table of cubes WITHOUT “maths tricks” if that makes any sense?

By way of example 68 cubes (Pram in number-shaper system) answer is: 314432. In my PAO Dominic System this translates into:

31= Captain America/ Throwing/Shield
44 = Donald Duck/Twerking/Tail Feathers
32 = Charlie Brown/Kicking/Football

#68 cubed = (Captain America is Twerking with a Football) giving me the answer of: 31-44-32.

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Love it. Maybe to really lock in in, create a memory palace specifically for this. 10 areas with 10 loci each. This way you have a theme and a specific setting to ground your scenes in.

Don’t know if you’re familiar with Star Trek: The Next Generation, but maybe thematically something like a “borg ship” could be a cool theme for your palace. (Borg ships are “cubes”.) You could imagine 10 areas of the ship to fill in thematic loci, (security, engine room, mess hall, bridge, shuttle bay, crew quarters, etc…)

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Imagine what child’s-play it would be to commit all the different combinations of two-digit cubes to memory this way, as opposed to slogging out the answers in long-handed algebraic fashion or by getting the answers before someone else could do so using a hand held calculator!

@TheHumanTim I am thinking about something you had said previously about the concept of “compression of images” in a previous post. Perhaps abandoning the suggested PAO (Dominic System) route, I could be better served and get greater “compression of images” by using the Major System for images of the various cubes?

For example: 68 x 68 x 68 = 314 432 or pictorially:

What are your thoughts (if any?)

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Yeah, I would definitely have the 2-digit initial number be the person of my 2 digit list (you could still use your Domimic people.) Then the cube would be two elements, a combination of 2 and 3 digit elements as needed.

12cubed = 1728… so ToNy, is eating a TaCo but instead of meat inside, its a kNiFe. (All from my 2-digit list)

93cubed = 804357… so PaM from the office (2-digit person), is putting a ViSoR on a jug of MiLK (both from my 3-digit list)

This way you could always encode the complete equation with 3 elements.

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I’d still use a memory palace to anchor the scenes. Otherwise its just an association of the scene to the people and if you use those people in other scenes, it could be tough to differentiate which scene is for what fact.

So maybe the loci for 12 is my kitchen sink. I set the interaction by having the water faucet gushing all over tony, soaking him as he eats the taco and getting it all soggy.

Maybe 93 is set in my garage on top of my step ladder. Pam is precariously balanced on the top rung, wobbling the ladder as she reaches up high to put the visor on a giant jug of milk…

If you dont want to deal with a 3-digit list yet, you could always structure the scenes like PAPO or PAOP for those longer results.

So, 93 = 804357, PaM FuSSIng over RoMo’s LoCK…

39 = 59319, MoBy LeaPing over MaTT’s Pie…

So if I’m understanding you correctly I could use both my Dominic System and Major System alongside each other. No need to have a Palace or Loci to put things into as my Dominic cast of characters 00 - 99 would stand in as the actual memory palace or loci.

So my Dominic character for #68 (SH) is Stephen Hawkins. So my ‘mini-movie’ to remember number 68 cubed (68 x 68 x 68) would be Stephen Hawkins joysticking his wheelchair up to full revs and causing a wheelspin whilst he is being chased around the Coliseum in Rome by a MoToR-RoMaN? This would work perfectly!

I think the picture I have painted in the theatre of my mind for 68 cubed is highly bizarre, colourful, vivid, funny and (hilarious in fact) which in and of itself makes it highly memorable to me. I apologies unreservedly to Stephen Hawkings, whom I believe is deceased. But no one needs to know what scenes I’ve created in my mind to remember information such as ‘68 cubed’ with lightening speed! Except of course all the people reading this example on this forum LOL!

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But can’t the number I’m cubing be the encoded character from my Dominic Systems list? So my 44 x 44 x 44 (would be Donald Duck). Or 66 x 66 x 66 (would be Sylvester Stallone? Or am I missing the point you are trying to make here? I know that if one is speaking that one should never really mix up your languages at the same time if you are fluent in different languages. My analogy is that the Dominic System and Major Systems are themselves nothing more than “languages” too. But I think in this instance as I know both systems well enough that using Dominic Characters or People for all two-digit numbers being cubed as per your suggestion is ingenious? Of course single digit numbers would have a zero in front of them so number 8 would actually be 08 or Oliver Hardy in “Dominic language”. Having the scenes unfold in Major System’s themes doesn’t faze me at all. For 68 x 68 x 68, I can clearly imagine a MoToR-RoMaN although we both know there really isn’t such a concept or thing. But that doesn’t really matter. If my scenes I am creating sticks, that’s all that’s important for me, Put differently, if it works… it works!!

But I think ‘compressing’ is key here, so where ever possible I would rather opt for combinations of 3 digit words for all cubed numbers above #47 whose answers are all 6 digit numbers! Not that what you are suggesting wouldn’t work though??

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Welllll, here’s where I’d disagree. If you use those people for other lists, especially involving number images, how do you differentiate which scene goes with which list?

By grounding each in a unique loci, it lends uniqueness to the entire scene by providing a distinct context for it. This way there is no confusion or swapping or mixing of imagery.

If you have no context for the scenes, how do you get around that interference?

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Yes, this is exactly what I mean. The 2-digit number that is being cubed is represented by your person and is the main subject of the scene. The result digits give you the rest of the scene, by informing your actions / objects / secondary characters however you see fit to format the scene! (Using either 2 or 3 digit imagery, whatever works best. Two 3-digit elements is definitely more efficient than three 2-digit elements, just may take longer to construct from scratch if you don’t have a pre-defermined 3-digit list.)

I understand better what you are getting at here. Its time that I start developing a variety of different palaces to avoid interference when I may want to re-use my Dominic characters to remember the digits of Pi or the order of a Tamariz card stack or a list of random binary numbers etc. etc.

With a variety of different loci that you are suggesting, I can have Donald Duck as a character doing a host of different things because he is “locked” into that “one specific context” only, such as knowing that the 44th card in a Tamariz stack is the 9 of Clubs. e.g. Donald Duck riding an elephant, where ‘elephant’ is the outdoorsy number-shape image for a 9 of Clubs. The ‘image’ created must be put into a separate memory palace that I only use for the purpose of recalling the Tamariz stack. So a memory palace of the Magic School’s premises (housed in Cape Town) with 52 loci could work well (because the Tamariz stack is dealing with memory of cards for purposes of magic!). So Donald Duck would be riding an Elephant (9 of Clubs) at the Magic School’s 44th loci which could be its ‘stone fireplace’?

If one is wanting to remember a different random deck of shuffled playing cards, you are saying use a different palace where Donald Duck may contain instead the 6 of Diamonds. If the 6 of Diamonds is represented by a “Shrimp” (Wealth - number shape system), I would have a totally different memory palace of a separate sequence containing 52 loci (say a walk through Las Vegas), gambling capital of the world as “cards” are used in their Black-Jack games there. If my 44th loci happens to be a One-armed Bandit machine, I would have Donald Duck eating shrimps playing at the 44th loci being the one-armed bandit machine.

As the two systems of loci “Magic Circle” and “Las Vegas” are different, I wouldn’t mix Donald Duck up as he is like a “Hollywood Actor” just playing out a different role in a different movie to use that analogy. The key here is that the same character’s ACTIONS are different as is the CONTEXT or background of where he (Donald Duck) is performing those ACTIONS.

This is a little like Queen Elizabeth II, who in 1966 was handing over the Soccer World Cup to Bobby Moore (England’s Captain) where the context or situation was Wembley stadium, compared maybe to Queen Elizabeth II knighting of Paul McCartney where the context or situation is Buckingham Palace or the Queen’s coronation at Westminster Abbey in 1953 or her riding in her ‘golden coach’ and waving to her doting British Subjects for her 50th year on the throne ect. ect.

Key here is the same person is doing different things ACTIONS in different situations LOCI and at different times. I may have wandered off the point a little here but I’m wanting to clearly understand this concept as I am not one who uses “Memory Palaces” but if I have all my “Ducks in a row” (no pun intended) the ‘Memory Palaces’ themselves are as important (if not more important?) than the various Peg words that one creates to recall things such as playing cards etc. themselves?

A little clumsily worded above, I know, but hopefully I have understood clearly the gist of what you are suggesting and the rationale of needing to use a host of different memory palaces to recall different things where you may be using the SAME CHARACTER (Donald Duck) over and over and over again?

The first part is absolutely how I think of it. One character can play many roles just like an actor in different movies. I would actually take this further and say it’s even more like an actor in different scenes, because the same character can be in different memorable scenes within the same movie that are still very easy to differentiate.

But the second part, I think I totally disagree with. The difference in actions or objects is pretty irrellevent. The context and setting being unique is really all that matters. Think about an actor that does the same action, with the same object even, but in different contexts. In The Empire Strikes Back, Luke Skywaker fights Vader with his lightsaber on the bridge in Cloud City. In Return Of The Jedi, he also fights Vader with his lightsaber in the emperors throne room. Same character, action, object, but the setting is different enough that I wouldn’t confuse the two scenes. He also fights Jabba’s gang with his lightsaber on the sandskiff over the sarlaac pit in the desert of tattooine. Same PAO structure, “Luke-Attacking-Lightsaber,” but the different contexts of the loci make them very easy to clearly remember, even across these three instances of the exact same PAO sequence.

Your example with card stacks is a great illustration. I learned Aronson’s stack first, using a memory palace of my home. When I went to learn Tamariz, I tried just putting them in the same palace, but I quickly experienced interference at the same position number. When I used a new palace to store Tamariz, zero interference and when recalling one or the other, there is no hesitation because the other stack doesnt exist in the other’s palace at all. So even though the same card imagery lives in both palaces, by only accessing one palace at a time, the focus snaps to the correct imagery and the other stuff never even enters the mind. I can even start with my image and end up at the loci for both. Where is the Jack Of Spades? Well that was the Dali Lama for me when I learned these stacks… at my house (Aronson), he’s inside my mailbox (loci 1). At my parent’s house (Tamariz), he’s peeking in the bathroom window (loci 45.) No confusion or interference. The loci is the key.

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Got it! Thanks for the explanation

Or maybe for 68 cubed a MeTeR-RoMaN (314-432) is an even better image?