My weird number system

Fun with number systems-

I call it HEADWARE SYSTEM

First, choose your favorite way to remember numbers, we will be building 10 pegs. For some experienced mnemonicists, a system already in use can be used here. If new, i suggest a rhyme scheme- one sun or wand or gun etc.

For everyone though, there are three criteria for this step- you cannot choose people and you cannot choose hats or headwear or anything that goes on or around the head.

No people. No hats. But they should be tangible things. And simple.

0-9

Thats 10 single digits. We will call these your essences.

Now think of 10 settings or great variety. The main concentration here is deciding on settings that give a specific feeling-for example: storm, beach, morning, night.

These are not singluar graspable tangible things they are vibes they are arenas they are stages and they are worlds. They must be distinct.

0-9

It is best if they have a flow to them, my personal ones go from waking to death.

We will call these your filters

NOW-

Each essence appears in each filter.

If beach is your first filter for 1 then all essences must exist on the beach.

Go filter by filter, and allow your essences to morph and transform into different but similar things.

But again- not people, and not hats. Its ok if people use the thing, but it cannot be a hat, and it cannot be a person.

If one is sun and beach is 1 then 11 might be sunscreen or sunburn or suntan or anything at all that somehow reminds you that the sun is specifically on a beach. You CANNOT use the sun here though, you must decide on its new form.

This is where it gets difficult- trying to create sun-ness in a storm setting. But maybe it’s just a flashlight there, or maybe a zippo lighter or storm match or reflective mirror or fire through a window. You can find a way. This takes the most time and should.

If you wish, this is the appropriate time to try and test and play with new essences and filters. I highly suggest changing essences first because you will see which are translatable across filters and which are not. In doing this you will notice which filters are weak.

Do all the versions.

0-99

We’ll call these your items

The filter tells you 10s place, essence tells you ones place. in a two digit 0-99 peg system.

Well done. I applaud you, genuinely, and you have earned my praise.

Now when you see sunburn you know 11 because it breaks into two pieces and you know which piece corresponds to which number, yet a sunburn is one thing. An item

Let’s add another layer, and trust me after all the restraint I’m sure you’ll enjoy this-

People.

People will be our hundreds place. Choose 10 people. I highly suggest a rhyme scheme here.

0-9

These should be people you can picture vividly WITHOUT A HAT.

If part of their character is contained in the hat they wear, like the mad hatter or Yosemite sam, you cannot use them.

These restrictions are what will make the system easiest to use.

Only choose people you can picture well.

We’ll call these your people.

Now when your people interact with your items you can build three digit numbers.

The person is the hundreds place, the item is the tens and ones place.

Try it!

123

654

789

I bow to you now, for combining a person and an object is imaginative in the deepest sense. What verb connected them? What happened? I am curious, and only you will ever know.

Regardless, each interaction should be the point of contact, and i personally had to make rules like “doors close and crates open” since door is four for me and crate is eight and i found them blending.

Search for blending, search for anything that doesnt sit individually or looks like something else or is vague or fuzzy before moving forwards to the ultimate level.

HATS

Decide on vivid images of 10 distinctly different hats. These will represent the thousands place of any number.

I find its best to model the hat after the geometry of the number- my first couple examples are- 1 santa hat, 2 mickey mouse ears, 3 tricorne hat, 4 graduation cap. I hope you can see the geometry in the examples.

It is also helpful to choose a hat which corresponds to the same filter, as if “hat” were an essence. I did this for a couple.

I think of the hats as having been worn by every one of your people, and you should picture each person wearing each hat, as if people we essences and hats were filters.

You have now completed the system to the thousands place.

1991 means something to you

1st hat, 9th person, 91st item

This is an image.

Dates are easy because pre-100 is no hat, after 1000 is all the same hat, after 2000 is all the same hat.

The hat will never interact or interfere with the object- because none of your objects involve the head.

People only ever represent the hundreds place, because there are no other people.

Items are known to be a form of essence that exists in a particular filter.

Now use it to memorize pi or something. And thank you, so very deeply, for reading this.

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Interesting…very creative. I’m going to spend an hour on this later today…I’m having a little slowness on the first two…but I’ll work on it. I like the idea. Thanks

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What part is making it slow for you? I’d be happy to share my own examples where you get stuck or play with your own essence/filter field

Finalized-

NO LONGER THE HAT SYSTEM

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On first glance, it is such an excellent system you have created @Felixvolata! Being very much my own style is a bonus :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes: I have struggled to complete my 000-999 PO for the last few months and this might make me willing to reorganize it since it has slowly been falling off amidst my failing discipline.. I started out using a variation of your system, but it was quite limiting in how I would derive characters’ objects themselves (without it being a part of their original design). So before I dedicate myself to the cause however, I have a few questions regarding FAFL:

  1. Would you like to share as to why you decided on abandoning the indexed hats? Personally, in my limited testing, I find the deciphering of character names through TMS to be overall more taxing than just putting on a sombrero for 0.. Maybe it is just my efforts in using TMS that may not be up to par.
  2. I am mainly curious as to how strict you actually apply the 1000,100,10,1s-categorization order yourself. In memorizing 123456 for example, it might produce Tutankhamun knocking on a magical door levitating above him (1234) and ‘x’ spinning into a tornado of Jenga blocks (–56). I would assume Leonardo from TMNT doing just about anything is a tad more memorizable (56–), but perhaps you use a solid substitute for x in these kind of situations?
  3. Actually, do you see a clear benefit of using 4-digits over 3 that I am not seeing? As in, is the effort of adding another parameter to rote train worth the scalability, in your opinion? Personally I might start off with my own variant that I have already built, categorizing 10s as a game/cartoon/anime series in place for your 100s whilst entirely skipping out on the 1000s. Mainly because I am a slacker by nature. E.g. @Mike4 and @TheHumanTim 's collaborated card system D2B is what made me skip out on 00-99 and go for 000-999 out the gate. Which in turn might sound contradicting since I focused on the potential time investment into getting better times in card memorization, rather than the time/soul/effort I would spend on my 000-999 PO. This system sure seems much more fun to drill in comparison, so I hope the effort I put in would make up for the potentially slightly higher up-front cost.
  4. ..Does sticks and wands not mix together for you? I tried using lollipops in the above example at first and got mindboggled trying to decrypt it back. As an ESL, number rhymes really never seemed to work for me, so I might just create my own distinct objects based on TMS instead.
  5. …Egg types? :joy:

PS. I really like the name FAFL, I find it very innovative to describe the freedom of your system rather than its restrictions. Whilst FAFO might have given you better marketability, I don’t see how it would be a feasible product in the slightest, compared to what you actually made.. In other words, many kudos on creating this magnificent system and thank you for considering my Qs!

first off, thank you friend, your message means a lot and makes me happy!

to answer your questions -

1- the hats started hijacking part of the structure that should belong to the item list imo. They became a “third” thing to remember, rather than just two things. They also influenced the people too much.

2- I simply use a 00## at the front of the number to allow for only four digit combinations. a phone number for instance has 8 digits for me, starting with a zero.

3- do a 00-99 item list to start and then building a 00-99 list of people will seem more fun and worth it. Compared to PAO this is exactly the function I was looking for - basically I found it less daunting too. The benefit is basically the number of pegs. if you used an item list 00-99, and a hundreds place list of 10 pegs. that would leave you with 110 pegs total, not bad for a three digit system. but essentially the legwork is almost done for the four digit at that point.

  1. the example is a good one, and the closeness of relation makes it harder to decipher indeed. Take spoon and shovel for example - making them distinguish in memory usually takes a hefty amount of action. like, the spoon has to be doing spoon things for it to retain its spoon-ness. The idea in FAFL is that we get to use the action freely in order to cement whether or not it is a spoon or a shovel.

  2. Egg types hahaha, ya.. hero egg = a fried egg (circular), tooth egg is an egg with a mouth, tree egg is a seed, door egg is a jewelry egg that opens.

    ill share my full peg list below.

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FAFL, Felix’s peg lists
LIVING THINGS ITEMS
00- snow 00 EggHero
01- an ancient sumarian 01 EggWand
02- sam 02 EggTooth
03- steve carrell 03 EggTree
04- scarab beetle 04 EggDoor
05- spongebob 05 EggFire
06- snoop dogg 06 EggSticks
07- a seagul 07 EggSilver
08- a skunk 08 EggCrate
09- a squid 09 EggTwine
10-tidal wave 10 Protein Powder
11- Trex 11 Spoon
12- dani 12 Retainer
13- dave 13 Tea
14- dragonfly 14 Cupboard
15- tigger 15 Stove
16- Tiger Woods 16 Stir Sticks
17- toucan 17 Aviator Glasses
18- tiger 18 Sugar Dish
19-turtle 19 Shoelace
20- night 20 Burger
21- neanderthal 21 Pool Noodle
22- nicol 22 Snorkle
23- nicholas 23 Palm Tree
24- gnat 24 Porta Potty
25- naruto 25 Beach Fire
26- nick cannon 26 Hot Dogs
27- nighthawk 27 Silver Frisbee
28- naked mole rat 28 Cooler
29- narwal 29 Hammock
30- mist 30 Goku’s Cloud
31- mammoth 31 Rocket Wand
32- aunt meri 32 Flying Vape
33- mike 33 Leaf Blowing
34- mantis 34 Airplane door
35- mickey mouse 35 Meteor
36- morgan freeman 36 Kite
37- mallard 37 UFO
38- monkey 38 Air Drop
39- manatee 39 Sling
40-rain 40 Gold Disc
41-raptor 41 Ceremonial Staff
42-rose 42 Ceremonial Pipe
43-ryan from the office 43 Bonzai
44– roach 44 Golden Door
45- roadrunner cartoon 45 Single Flame
46- ray charles 46 Incense sticks
47- roadrunner real 47 Moon Orb
48- rat 48 Golden Chest
49- ray (mantaray) 49 Monk Chord
50-lightning 50 Umbrella
51-lucy (skeleton) 51 Lightning bolt
52-laura 52 Whistle
53-larry david 53 Fallen tree
54- ladybug 54 Screen Door
55- lola bunny 55 Flare
56- lil wayne 56 Tent Stakes
57- loon 57 Emergency Blanket
58- elephant 58 Pelican Case
59- lionfish 59 ParaCord
60- shifting sand 60 Morningstar
61- jianianhaulong 61 Spear
62- jen 62 Maw
63-jesse 63 Pine Tree
64-Jerusalem beetle 64 UFC ring door
65-jake the dog 65 Flamethrower
66- jordan peele 66 Arrow Volley
67- jay (blue jay) 67 Bullet
68- giraffe 68 TNT crate
69- jellyfish 69 Barbed Wire
70- category 70 hurricane 70 Watch
71- king james 71 Column
72- kimmy 72 Diamond Braces
73- kevin k 73 Petrified Wood
74- caddisfly 74 Glass vault door
75- kermit 75 Magma
76- kevin hart 76 Chandelier
77- kookaburra 77 Mirror
78- kangaroo 78 Ring Box
79- clam 79 crystal thread
80- avalanche 80 Flashlight
81- viking 81 Shovel
82- fluer 82 Spit
83- frank sinatra 83 Roots
84- fly 84 Mine Door
85- fred flinstone 85 Torch
86- flava flave 86 Drill Bits
87- falcon 87 Silver Ore
88- fox 88 Minecart
89- flying fish 89 Cable
90- breeze 90 Mask
91- blacksmith 91 Tombstone
92- becky 92 Sabertooth Tiger Skull
93- brandon 93 charcoal
94- bugs bunny 94 Doorless Arch
95- bee 95 ashes
96- barack obama 96 Dead Roses
97- penguin 97 Urn
98- panda 98 Coffin
99-pufferfish 99 Spiderweb
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I very much appreciate your in depth answers! I enjoy peering into the inner workings of ambitious individuals and that list of yours is no short of fascinating :smiley: I will definitively put my own flair on various categories that better speaks to me personally, though the inspiration you bring will probably influence the direction to say the least. Your display of combinational creativity is marvelous, and even had me pick up a few new objects as well.. I never knew those were called Pelican boxes, but even less so was I aware that bugs bunny was a literal bug (jk, funny mix-up though)

I thank you once again for creating and sharing this system as well as the good advices! I will try my best to push through and hopefully put it into practice soon enough. I am looking forward to reporting back and perhaps bother you once or twice again whence the yet to discovered problems surely will arrive :slight_smile: Cheers!!

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Super exciting to me to have someone give it a decent shot.

Best of luck mnemonist- I’d be happy to help in any way I can!

Ps- how embarrassing about the bee/bugs bunny mix-up. Ugh..