My variation of a simple PAO system

I’ve been interested in memory techniques for years (decades!) on and off, but unlike most regular people here I’ve not really seen things through. E.g. over the years I’ve had regular goes at creating PAO systems but never fully finished.

E.g. I recently decided to have a go at a 2-digit PAO with categories to help me remember, so 00-09 might be from James Bond films - but when it came to it I often found it hard thinking up 10 good characters (without going more obscure), let alone actions. And when I did it was hard deciding where to place them as many would start with the same letter or just didn’t fit a digit in a memorable way. It could be done - but I’d have a lot of work trying to remember that a character/action/object was 05 instead of 08, say.

So filling out a 2-digit PAO meant learning to associate 300 things with specific digits - that takes lots of work/time (which is why I never finished) and is also overkill for me as I don’t want to learn vast amounts of numbers, so a system to create unique images for each 6-digit number was excessive for me.

So, I’ve decided to have another go and am starting with a PAO system to help with memorising numbers. BUT - I’m going to try a new way (for me at least) and I wondered what people here thought.

Before I tell you the technique, here are a few points I’m keeping in mind or trying to achieve:

  1. I want a way that is dead easy to set up and learn.

  2. It’s not designed for competitions. While I’d ultimately like to remember a lot of facts, the amount of information is going to be a lot less than for those of you that do impressive feats where you have to worry more about repetition of images or memorise long strings of numbers.

  3. I preferably want to chunk digits into 3’s, just because that’s the way we remember/say/write them. I.e. the hundreds, thousands, millions, etc.

  4. I’ve got young children and I’d like this method to actually be easy enough to teach them.

  5. I do not expect this to be as good as more advanced methods - I’m wanting a method to reliably and quickly remember ‘normal’ numbers (dates, phone numbers, credit card numbers, etc). So this could be a technique for people that want to quickly gain good memory of numbers in day-to-day use, or to teach children.

The technique that I’m going to be trying out is basically a 1-digit PAO, and in my case I’m going to base it on films as they’re rich in characters and imagery.

I have seen 1-digit PAO systems before, where you come up with 10 people, 10 actions and 10 objects - that gives 1,000 images. That could work, but the problem I see with that is that images will be reused so many times.

So the way I’m planning on extending it is to have multiple people, actions and objects for each digit. That’s making it similar to a 2-digit PAO but you have total freedom in the number of people/actions/objects to come up with (doesn’t matter if you can’t think up 10) and don’t have to remember a specific digit for each.

All you would need to do is associate a film for each digit 0-9 - so you only need to remember 10 associations. Far fewer than the 300 associations you need with a 2-digit PAO. Then say Harry Potter was associated with ‘9’, all I would need to do to remember the number 999 would be to create an image with any Harry Potter character, doing an action associated with the films to an object associated with the films. So I could actually have hundreds/thousands of images to choose from if I wanted - Snape could be casting a spell on a golden snitch, or Dumbledore could be drinking polyjuice from the Goblet of Fire, etc.

Basically - you assocaite 10 films with the digits 0-9 and then have huge flexibility in creating images of a person doing something to an object from the films associated with the numbers to store a 3-digit number.

The main disadvantage is that if you wanted to remember, say, a 12-digit number you would need 4 of these images, vs 2 in a 2-digit PAO. But given the ease of learning I think for many this could be worth doing, if you’re wanting a more casual system that’s not for competition.

One good advantage of it (other than being far, far easier to learn) is that while each person/action/object may only store 1 digit, you get huge flexibility in which person/action/object you use. You can use whichever one you want, depending on what you think makes the best image and whether you’ve remembered a similar one before and so want one that’s totally different.

What could be useful is jotting down a few good characters, actions and objects for each film so that when you need to memorise a number you’ve already thought up a few good ones. That’s probably more worthwhile for actions, so you can ensure that you’ve got a few unique actions for each one that you know are associated with that film. But you could start with just a few of each and if you find you use the system a lot, or use a specific number a lot, you could add a few more later.

I know that 1-digit PAO systems have been mentioned before, and that categories have been used by people to make learning 2-digit PAOs easier - but I’d not seen mention of a 1-digit PAO that used categories before, giving huge flexibility in the person/action/object chosen, and think it has a lot going for it.

So do you think it’s a useful method, for those not wanting to do competitions?

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Hi Steve.

I really like your simple approach. I think this might come in handy for me as well.
Basing it on films in general makes it really intuitive. And that’s something I really like when doing memory techniques. Free associations are just great.
I will try it out
I was never really fully satisfied with my own PAO as well, since I had a hard time imagining movements.
You have sparked my interest in PAO again.

Also, like you said, for kids and beginners your method might be really good.
I will try my own list now and report back how it’s going.

Greetings
Fijordan

Glad you like the idea - let me know how it goes! As you say, free associations can help make far more memorable images as you can choose ones that fit better rather than being stuck with the ones dictated by your 2-digit PAO system. It’s half as effective as a 2-digit PAO, but takes maybe 1/100th the effort to create and learn!

The films I’ve chosen for the digits 0-9 are as follows:

0 Star Wars
1 Star Trek
2 Toy Story
3 The Matrix
4 Pirates of the Caribbean
5 Lord of the Rings & The Hobbit
6 Shrek
7 James Bond
8 Batman
9 Harry Potter

All of those are ones I know quite well (though ones like Shrek I’ve not seen for ages), they’re filled with memorable characters and actions/objects.

Just over half of those are are associated with their number due to their names starting (pretty much) with the same letter as the digit in the Major System, so easy for me to recall as I know that system quite well (i.e. Star Wars, Trek, Matrix, Lord of the Rings, Shrek, Potter).

The remaining 4 are a bit more tenuous. Associating Bond (007) with 7 is easy. Batman is 8 as you could think of 8 as looking like a bat! Toy Story and Pirates will just need to be remembered the hard way - but that’s only 2, so easy.

So, for example, to remember the number 179 I might make an image of Spock shaking a martini in a cocktail shaker and to his surprise a golden snitch flies out and away when he opens it to pour it into his martini glass, making him raise an eyebrow. Or the same number could be Scotty at a roulette wheel (gambling is an action for Bond), except that the roulette wheel is actually inside the goblet of fire with flames shooting upwards - perhaps Scotty is trying to win the goblet of fire to use as a power source for the Enterprise engines. Or if I found later that the image didn’t work, I could easily try a different one with a totally different trio of person/action/object.

Certainly not as powerful as a more advanced system, but after 10 minutes of coming up with 10 decent films (with memorable characters, actions and objects) that you can associate with the numbers 0-9 then you can be away and memorising numbers!

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Yeah I like the idea. I actually really like it.
That way you can introduce someone to PAO easily, take away their fear, show them that it’s fun and maybe they will be excited to jump on the wagon and go for a 100 digit PAO :wink:
Here are mine:

0 Star Wars
1 Terminator
2 Nemo, findet (finding Nemo)
3 Mentalist
4 Ringe, Herr der (Rings, Lord of the)
5 Last Samurai
6 Schöne und das Biest (Beauty and the Beast)
7 Karate Kid
8 Wall-E
9 Potter, Harry

By the way, with mobile phone numbers I just use the carrier symbol. Pretty easy and nice to visualize.
At least in Austria there is usually one carrier associated with one number.
Then I add the 10 digit PAO. But when I am done there is one number left most of the time.
I could just use another Person without doing anything.
But I decided to use my an object from my 100 objects list instead.
So what I do is:
Carrier symbol / PAO PA-99Object

I beat you to it :stuck_out_tongue:

Not quite - that’s a 2-digit PAO system, whereas the one I’m trying out is a 1-digit PAO.

Your system is a lot better & more powerful, as you pack more digits into an image, but still takes quite a while to create and then learn. The 1-digit PAO I’m looking at might take 10 minutes to learn as you’ve only got 10 things to remember.

The problem I’ve found with 2-digit PAO systems is that there’s a lot to remember and hours spent trying to fill spaces. E.g. you’ve got 10 categories, but then have to remember 10 further things for each category and which digit they represent. So your numbers 10-19 are the Sherlock category, but you’ve then got to come up with 10 different characters/actions/objects for it and then assign the numbers 10-19 to them and work on remembering them. So in total you have 300 things to come up with and then remember with the specific digits they represent.

It can all be done and the result is a better system than what I’m suggesting. But - it takes a lot more time to do and I’ve frequently tried, spent ages half doing it then tailed off and left it.

So the system I’m trying is a simple 1-digit PAO - using your example I might have Sherlock represent the digit 1, rather than 10-19. Then when forming images I could choose any Sherlock character, or action/object associated with it.

What I’m suggesting is a very simple system that anyone could learn or be taught in 10-20 minutes, which might be good enough for casual use or could allow the technique to be trialed without a huge amount of effort setting up the system. You don’t need to come up with 10 characters to fill a specific category and then remember exactly which number they represent - you just have to know a few characters (and you can add more later if you want) and they all represent the same number.

E.g. if 1 represented Sherlock and you wanted to remember the number 111 then you’d need an image with 1 character doing an action with an object, but could choose from any Sherlock character (Sherlock, Watson, Moriarty, etc) and any Sherlock-related action (e.g. smoking, playing a violin, in disguise, etc) and any Sherlock related object (e.g. a deerstalker hat, a pipe, etc). You could come up with any combination that created the best image and linked best to what it was you were trying to remember.

There’s no way anyone that’s successfully using a better system (e.g. 2-digit PAO) would want to use this sytem, other than maybe to teach somebody the principle without much effort. But there must be lots of people like me that see the benefit of a PAO system but have just never successfully created one. This enables a quick PAO system to be created in 10 minutes, even if the trade-off is that you need more of these images to memorise a number than with a 2-digit PAO. But this could be tried and if found useful it could provide the motivation to invest in a better 2-digit PAO system.

Interesting idea. If you aren’t competing, another idea is to use 100 Major System images for 00-99 and number shapes for 0-9. That’s only 110 things to remember (instead of 300 for PAO), and it works for numbers of different lengths.

The images can be persons, cartoon characters, objects, mythological creatures, etc.

I think that PAO is mainly useful for competitions as a way to reduce duplicate images when memorizing multiple decks of cards, or very long numbers.

Yes, I think a 100 object Major System is probably a good way to go. Plus number shapes or rhymes.

My 1-digit PAO has promise and could help you easily test out the method before comitting to creating and learning a full 2-digit PAO. However, in practice I’ve found that it still takes a certain amount of work to create an image to encode the 3 digits and as I’m familiar with the Major System I can often come up with a single word to encode all 3 digits, which I find easier to do and remember.

If competition/speed isn’t important then I’m thinking that I may not really need to create a PAO as I can easily use the Major System for any numbers I want to encode. Creating a 100-object Major System would still be useful, to speed things up a bit and fill in some tricky numbers.

Hi, I love tour idea! :slight_smile:

I have my full 2 digits PAO but I will use your system as well I think,
it seems better for phone numbers actually. ^^’

I’m gonna make a tweek to it tho,
it’s gonna be PAOo.
Persone, Actions, Objects and other.

Other being a state which combines well with actions or object.
For instance, I might take colors, or suits, someone suggested wardrobe, that person even did it for a full 2 digit pao!!!

Some images I know I’ll use for the other is :

  • covered in white feathers
  • covered in black (like covered in petrol)
  • I had more but forgot it ^^’

The reason I’d like to use that system is to have a phone number like this one : “123-456-7890” represented as PAO-PAO-PAOo.
For now, it looks like : P(A part 1)-(A part 2)O-PA… sooo it’s far from optimal…

Any if anyone wants tips on how to memorize what image is what number, what I’ll do is I’ll find a 10 stops(loci) palace, then place 1 person from each category at a stop. That person will do an action, with 1 “other”, and the objects will most likely be found on the spot, since they only need to belong to the category.

I tried so many times to share some memory techniques with friends and family… but I understand that a full PAO is overwhelming.

I’ll make my simple PAOo in a way anyone can pick up, hopefully I’ll be able to share that one ^^’
Thinking back at it, my images would be realy big o.o
Well, even if it’s just to share it with my friends, it’s still worth learning, so thanks! :wink:

Oh, and last note, it’s not 100x more images to learn, only 10x more, so don’t be so scared if one day you want to finish your full PAO! :wink: