Memory Palace glorification from the 90's to today

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Good day everyone,

I have noticed that the use of MPs have grown exponentially since the 90’s.

I have also seen that the general “feel” I’m getting is that they are being used almost to the exclusion of everything else we should be using as tools…Ex. Linking, Pegging, Major System,etcs.

I would recommend everyone recheck how and where they are using MPs as they are not the most efficient way, necessarily, of memorizing topics.

For me, Linking and Pegging are much more readily accessible instead of plowing through things in a Memory Palace.

Try it, You’ll like it :slight_smile:
Stefos

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Hi. I suggest you name it as peg system. Like you name it is other thing I believe :sweat_smile:

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About the point. I like story or link or chain method but it has a limit. Peg palace or similar has other advantages.
May be its true palace is overrated. But as is used by People in memory competition is good.
Im triyng to learn it but is hard for me. Im triyng to combine with others.

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It is the best technique, the method of the chain is not new, but for something the ancients used it combined to places, one of the problems is that when you forget a link in the chain you forget the others, but in a palace this does not happen.

Remembering that the ancients used to memorize textually… places are not only real but can also be imaginary, like Platon who used the cave to represent his philosophical thoughts.

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The Memory Palace technique is a form of linking and each station is a kind of peg.

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Lynne Kelly, Metivier, and Dominic. They even cover the future; think about the power of Mandarin!.. This is something Lynne Kelly covers very well.

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Hi, What I mean is for people having a strong unaffinity for MP’s to simply use a link/chain and peg, not an MP.

Stefos

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It can work. Remember that loci in memory palaces are objects or things like a chair, window, etc. What really takes advantage of this technique is the memory’s ability to remember routes. This is simple for the memory, as it is something it uses for survival.

Chains work well, but like everything else in this field, they require practice. I know a Spaniard named Ramon Campayo who mainly uses the chain method, and he is quite fast and good at it.

I have also used this method to remember things. The biggest problem is that without a place, you don’t know where to look. This is not recommended for long-term information, but if it is information that you are going to review or look up after a short time, it is not bad.

For long-term information, I prefer pegs to be numerical or alphabetical, as they are something that is in your memory and works as a route… You can also make chains using pegs, that is, use peg 1 and associate 10 or 20 things with it and so on with the others… This is to make sure they are not lost.

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What do you use as pegs? Lists like what?

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You can use any phonetic numbering system, for letters and numbers.

There are other systems, but they’re more complex to explain, although the basic principle is the same. You can use a route like “palace,” which is easy since you can create new ones if you want by searching online, with a 3D view.

But I like to bring them to life using literature, comics, movies, etc. You extract characters and place them in a location.

You can name the location and use the initial letter to mark the index. Objects from one location can travel to another to index locations.

You can create 3x3=9 grids, meaning in a room with 6 areas like the 4 walls, 1 floor, and 1 ceiling, placing 3 to 10 images within each square, and within each image, an active character. You can number everything, like room 1 with 162 loci (9 x 6 x 3 = 162). This means room 1 ranges from 1 to 162, although you can also number it from 1 to 100, giving you 1,000 loci with just 10 rooms (this saves a lot of time creating loci). This allows you to place a lot of information in one space. If you want, each room can have a theme, like an airport with objects of that category in that room, and so on.

I separate the visual information into categories, such as visual idea, color idea, movement idea, etc. So, an area could be black, like a charcoal square, a black sword, a raven, smoke, etc.

There are so many ways to create fantastic places, using just about anything. These days, there’s so much easily accessible information online that it’s practically impossible to create massive memory palaces.

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Any technique can happen in a memory palace. I think of it as an additional layer, not a system to choose to the exclusion of others.

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Yes however it can become an additional layer

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It’s like an extension of the system, but it serves other purposes such as data structures. For example, if you need to remember the name, date of birth, names of acquaintances of the main character, etc., it can be done easily by adding a layer, without the need to use other places, which would obviously make everything very confusing.

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Unless I’m memorizing merely a list, I find that combinations of techniques are essential. The memory palace is the ideal storage structure for complexities involving the major system, etc. I personally use both along with various alphabets (Roman, Greek and Braille), the chessboard and chess notation, tarot cards, and linking.

The thing about the memory palace is that it works, glorification notwithstanding.

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Hi. How do you use chessboard?

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The chessboard can be used as a sort of memory palace or journey, but you have to set it up first with something or someone occupying each square as a hook. If you are familiar with chess notation, you know that each square has a unique alphanumeric designation, a1 to a8 through h1 to h8. By applying major system theory, a1 becomes AT, etc. I have populated my squares with people having corresponding initials, females on white squares, males on black. Thus each occupied square becomes a hook for whatever information I want to assign.

Alternatively, I am now using it as an index to a succession of memory palaces for a big project I’m working on.

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From what I get you don’t visualise the chessboard as an object with 64 squares, but you built an alphanumeric peg list obtained from the following cartesian product {a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h} X {1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8}.