Memorising 250 words in a random language in 7 days?

As the title says. I must remember 250 words in a random language that I will not know until it is time. My knowledge on this subject is quite limited therefore I am asking for help on how to go about it. When the it’s time for the test 25 words (out of the 250) will be chosen from the language in question to translate to English and 25 (others, out of the 250) going the opposite way.

How would you guys go about it?

Any tips on how to prepare? “Train” the memory beforehand so to speak?

Any tips in case it’s a language with a foreign alphabet?

Hi I dont know so much. Whats That? A memory tournament?

  • Index all 250 into flashcards on spaced repetition software like Anki (set it to just test {foreign} → {English}
  • Aim to learn 50 per day, so you have 2 spare days to solidify the memorization
  • Some words will just “stick”. For the others, use various mnemonics, e.g. the foreign word reminds you of something vaguely related
  • I’ve mentioned many times here that memory palaces are a poor tool for learning languages because they are relatively slow to retrieve data. However, in your situation (where recall speed might not be important?) it could be effective! I still wouldn’t recommend it (just do the steps above) but it could be an interesting experiment to explore them!

Appreciate the input! It’s for a job recruitment test. I don’t know exactly how much time I will have but I’m assuming max 1 hour.

  • For Anki do you reckon it’s better to do the [New] → [English] for most of the practice or [English] → [New]. Whats harder to remember? How would u split up the practice time?
  • Memory Palaces are really effective, however since the words given on the test are randomised and not in the said order I think it might fail.
  • It’s important I make no mistakes, so gambling with the strategy is probably not the best idea

Thats a realy hard test.

You mean 1 hour for memorization (very difficult) or 7 days for memorization (easy if you take it seriously)?

And 1 hour for translating the words? That’s plenty of time.

Note also that if you were designing this test to make it difficult, you’d include some words with very similar spellings or meanings.

And one thing I forgot to mention: also check for any patterns in the data e.g. maybe all plurals end in -ler or -lar?

i also think memory palaces are not the best for language but for this exercise will work perfectly. if you happen to have a 250 loci MP in place, just use them. 50 words a day and then two days recall is quite easy if you know how it works. i did it for turkish some months ago, 30 word a day for some days, in my spare time. wish you best luck with the test.

and honestly, different alphabet, i don’t think it will be the case.
i would prepare for the easiest and more probable case of same alphabet, different alphabet would be really tough, then i would spend first day only on alphabet conversion and phonetics, in order to be able to start memorisin the next day. but that would be really cruel.

And usually if you did use a memory palace for vocabulary, it would make sense to group by meaning, e.g. putting food words together, to partially compensate for the inefficient retrieval complexity.

But in this case, you could just structure it alphabetically, e.g. one room for A, one room for B–C, etc. (Or similar, in case it doesn’t use a Roman alphabet).

Side note: I also found it useful to learn the basic rules of how to pronounce the foreign words, so I can think about them more fluidly. Doesn’t work for English (ridiculous spelling system) or Chinese/Japanese (pictographic) though.

Hi. Do you renember pronunciacion too? Or study it with other systems?

depending on the language and from what you can get from the listed words, i think you can group them by gender, o other characteristic if you are able to make that distinction, or by topic if not.
It’s not strictly necessary though.

Yes, good idea. Probably not for gender specifically, but if it’s obvious what part of speech words are, you could group e.g. all adjectives together in one area of the memory palace.

For this, even grouping by word length (4 letters, 5 letters, …) could be helpful here, as the exercise is quite artificial.

The test is as follows:

7 days prior i recieve 250 words in a random language. In the past it has been challenging languages such as zulu and dari. These languages are far from english thats for sure. On the test day I will recieve 25 words randomly selected to translate into English and 25 vice versa. I don’t know how much time I will have for the test 1 hour was a flimsy max guess. Guessing somewhere inbetween 15-45 min is more realistic.

Do you have any tips?

This is an interesting situation. I almost wish I would need to take this test…
(Note: that’s only a thought exercise, what I would do given my own experience, you’d have to adapt to your situation/preferences to do what you think useful).

I would do two things:

  1. Prepare places to be dispersed alphabetic memory palaces, that I could fill up with soundalike mnemonics.
  2. Set up anki (prepare an empty deck and a “basic reverse” note type with three fields “english”, “mystery language” and “mnemonic”)

((Note on 2: it’s only if you receive the words several days before. If you have to memorize the words and pass the test on the same day, then you can just forget everything I say about anki/spaced repetition system SRS, because you won’t have the time to use such an app.))

Alphabetic memory palaces
Alphabetic because, since you’re doing a pure “translation” (or rather correspondance) exercise, it means that the hints to recall are: the first letter(s) and how it’s spelled (meaning how it sounds – to you, nobody cares if you have a good prononciation in this context).

Example (completely random I’m just writing the first thing coming into my head):
Direction “mystery language” to English: you have the word “uzgluk”. Hmm it begins with U so it’s in the supermarket “super U” and it sounds like a hen (gluk gluk), oh yes, there was a flock of hens in the supermarket, when I first heard them I thought there was somebody with a phone with a chicken ringtone, but there really was a flock of hens in the electronic department laying eggs among the printers! So uzgluk = ringtone.
In the other direction (English to “mystery language”): ringtone… where did I hear a ringtone? Oh in the super U, so it begins with U and it was a chicken ringtone (gluk gluk), so it must be ugluk. Then you notice while reviewing that you forgot the “z” in uZgluk so you add a bee buZZing around panicking the hens who are clucking ever louder and making a mess. Ringtone = uzgluk

Don’t lose time getting fancy/clever, the first thing that come into your head is usually the mnemonic your brain will remember (even if it’s a “stupid” one).

Anki (or other SRS of your choice, speak about anki because it’s the one I know)
Put all words in anki (or whatever space repetition software of your choice) and drill.
Again, no need to lose time going fancy. A simple “basic reverse” note is enough, with a supplementary field for the mnemonic if you feel you need to write it down.
Ideally you get the list of words in a file (not printed on paper) and you can import it directly into anki to not lose time creating the cards one by one.
With a basic-reverse note type, each note would create two cards. You’d have card 1: Question: uzgluk. Answer: ringtone + supplementary field with mnemonics “hens laying eggs in super U” (+ bee). And card 2: Question: ringtone. Answer: uzgluk + supplementary field with mnemonics (“hens laying eggs in super U”).
The mnemonic shouldn’t appear with the question, you want it on the card only in a hint field or a normal field on the answer side to be able to consult it again if you forgot it.

About other alphabets:
Given the information we have, I think they’ll choose a less known language but written with the Latin alphabet. The point is to choose a language that the candidates probably don’t know, so the test would be somewhat fair (there’s a chance that somebody already knows German, but Zulu probably not).

They do not care about the language itself. They are testing to see what strategies you come up with to learn something in a short time frame, how you tackle dealing with a large amount of information, how you analyse and solve a problem. You should be prepared to memorize, but you probably should also be prepared to explain what you did and why.

That being said, with shape mnemonics and a memory palace (and the Wikipedia/IPA page of said script) it wouldn’t take a lot of time to learn a new alphabet (or abjad). If you worry about the possibility, and have no experience with learning another script (sometimes it’s a psychological barrier for people who deem a language “hard” just because they see different letters), you could learn other alphabets/adjad (cyrillic, arabic, etc.) for fun (yes I find it fun, I may be strange). The aim is not really to know the alphabet, but to train the process to see that it isn’t that hard and know you can to it quickly if needed.

But I really think it’s unlikely, so it’s probably not the best use of your time.

If you have 7 days, and are allowed to use an SRS, my advice would be to set up anki (or an equivalent app) if you don’t already use one. And to get familiar with it to not lose time with technical difficulties during the test. You need to know the very basic options, like how to create a deck and the cards, (and ideally how to create cards in bulk, in case you have a luxury of receiving the list of words in an electronic format and can import all words directly into your SRS system).

Also train using alphabetic memory palaces and train coming up with mnemonics (without experience the process can be slow). No tricks are going to replace practicing. Pull up a list of random words and try to memorize them, giving yourself a short time limit. Test yourself, see how well you do, and what problems you have. Then solve these problems to make your strategy better and try again. You’re also training to adapt your strategy to new problems coming your way.

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That sounds fun. Good luck! Tell us how you do.

Hi. What do you mean with alphabetic memory palaces? Like peg system??

When I do alphabetic memory palaces it’s more like zones.
For example, I put all the words beginning with G at the “gare” (train station), all the words with J in the “jardin royal” (botanical gardens), etc.

Then I place the words there, with a mnemonic.

For example, gisi = melt.
The first thing that comes to mind is that “gisi” would be a nickname for Giselle. So I imagine Giselle (my colleague) waiting for her train on a platform and it’s so hot :hot_face: that she literally melts… Nothing left except a puddle on the floor (and maybe her boyfriend is horrified and cries “nooo gisi!!” :scream:)

So when I wonder: how do I say “melt”? I remember that the melting happened on a train platform (“gare”, so it begins with G)… Oh yes, the person with G was poor Gisi, so melt=gisi.

Some people use alphabetical palaces differently (making a path/journey to follow), but for vocabulary I don’t feel it’s necessary, because I don’t find really important to have “gipso” before “gisi” and “gitaro” after “gisi”, as long as I can remember each word separately.

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Very interesting. Are palaces real or invented?

I prefer real places.
Doesn’t need to be super clear visualisation and I don’t hesitate to edit them a bit in my head if necessary.

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