Major System Peg Words 00 - 99

I have revisited my 100 Major System Peg Words for the umpteenth time and have decided to simplify my list to the following images, each of which relies solely on a single letter to number conversion.

In other words all my images 90 - 99 first letters rely on the B-sound (not the P-sound). Similarly, my words for all my images 60 - 69 first letters rely on the J-sound (not the ch or sh sounds). The following pictures are my sets of words 60 - 69 and 90 - 99.

Note: #62 = JeaN (not Jeans). I’m thinking of changing this image to JohN though (like John Lennon, then the words fit their letters exactly!

Perhaps these few images will help someone looking at establishing their first 100 Peg Words 00 - 99?

Updated: with #62 = JohN

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These are really cool. Can you share your whole list? What do you use to create the images? What is number 69?

Looks like it’s “JeeP”

Great list, @fred2

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Sorry I meant 68.

Appears to be JoVe

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Ah!

Here is the whole list of pegs. Incidentally Tim was correct about #69 = JeeP and #68 = JoVe. There is a slight contradiction of terms though in that trying to keep the the schematic of only representing the 9 to a B, I should perhaps have rather used JaB as #69?

Here’s the list I use for Major System in picture format as requested:

I think it is a good idea to at least try and keep your starting letters at least consistent with using the same letters (e.g. 1 = T and not 1 = T and D; which is why I opted to use #18 = ToFFee as opposed to #18 = DoVe. I also changed my original #16 = Dish to #16 = TiSSue/ (TiSHoo) for the same reason. I wasn’t so worried about keeping the 2nd letters altogether consistent though. E.g. I was happy to use #68 = JoVe as opposed to #68 = JaFFa (which is fruit branded “JaFFa” that comes from Israel such as naartjies).

I found it best to keep the first letters consistent as: 0=S, 1=T, 2=N, 3=M, 4=R, 5=L, 6=J, 7=K(sound), 8=F, 9=B however.

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I kind of did what you did but took it a step further. Since I don’t use memory systems all day long I found it hard to recall 100 pegs quickly enough to be useful. So, I did what you did with the first letter but also made the vowel an “a.” By knowing the first two peg letters of any number I could recall the peg quickly if it wasn’t already one I just knew. There are exceptions here and there and I already did have 1 - 25 down pat so I just kept those. Some of the pegs are a little weird, like 96 - pash, but as long as you have a good image it works. (pash for me is a passion fruit, but I actually visualize a dragon fruit which is weird and memorable).

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This kind of association works great. As long as YOU have a specific image that springs to mind, it doesn’t matter if it’s a “perfect” or “accurate” match.

For 122, my word is “DaNNoN” (a popular yogurt brand.) My mental image of a dannon yogurt is a specifically shaped container with a foil pull of top. Like this:

Dannon doesnt make a container like this! But this image is strong for me and the association for the word Dannon is reflexive so I’ve kept it and had no trouble with it.

I’ve also got a Sea Anemone associated with “223” because since I was a kid, I’d always pronounce it “aNeNoMe.”

I know its technically incorrect, but that neural connection is so engrained that its easier to embrace my mispronunciation than try to overwrite it to fit 232.

I see no problem with this at all. The only issue would be if you tried to teach someone your list or suggest those images to them, they wouldn’t make much sense to others. But thats why its usually better to find words that your own brain likes rather than trying to make it connect with an external list.

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Haha, another one:

I used to pronounce the Portuguese word for platypus (ornitorrinco) as onitorrinco, so I accidentally encoded it as 21 instead of 42 in my old 2-digit list. I can’t agree more that this didn’t matter a bit.

A few days ago I found out I have been pronouncing “Buchanan” as “Bushanan” instead of “Bukanan,” which made me incorrectly encode Wally Buchanan as 596 instead of 597. I’m probably going to change it. Although this isn’t a problem, seeing an exception to the rules is bothering my methodical self, haha. The only alternative I got is LePage from Tom and Jerry, who isn’t very memorable. Btw, what is your image for 596?

Yes, agreed. The first thing that comes to mind is strongest, I suppose. It took me a few minutes to realize my passion fruit mental image was actually a dragon fruit. Maybe I’ll have to rethink if I try to remember a peg for dragon fruit, lol.

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My person and object for 596 both come from “LaB Chart.” The object is a clipboard lab chart and the person is my doctor. He doesn’t carry a lab chart, but he’s a memorable looking guy and I’m familiar with his mannerisms, so it fits.

You actually pronounce ANeMoNe correctly!

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For me that would be a double burden every time. To remember that I am mispronuncing. NO NAME is not bad for 223. I believe you have an image.
And extra work with 232 too. If I want 0232, cinnamon works. Anemone is a genus of flower.
I have no problem abbreviating.
3 digit systems have enough unavoidable pronunciation problems. Lichen 562 or 572. It is such a balancing act.
The community accepts two contadictory ideas with no cognative dissonance.
You do not need to build your own list of 1000 3 digit words from scratch. Probably keep 90% of a premade list. 3NRD.
The contradiction is a worse idea, that your total effort is to make a partial list in a day.
This bluntness may save hours of counter productive frustration.

Exactly. Note the emphasis I added to “for me.” You haven’t had decades of internal reinforcement that aNeMoNe is pronounced aNeNoMe. This would not be a word I’d recommend for you, or for others. Hence:

I’m speaking about how its easier and completely natural for me to use this word. Not for others to.

My point was that if you have an very strong and automatic association that happens to be a mispronunciation of what is technically correct, its fine to use. It will be much much easier than trying to overwrite years of habitual mispronunciation.

Associations are first and foremost individualized. As are some pronunciations, whether through habit, dialect, etc…

If you’re helping someone by suggesting words for their system, then obviously you should refrain from suggesting your own unique pronunciations as they won’t click for someone else, as I said:


I really don’t think that on an individual basis, there are unavoidable pronunciation problems. If you’re speaking in terms of creating a universally usable system, then sure, phonetic methods will not work in the same way for everyone.

For me, “LiCHeN” is pronounced “LiKe iN” so its clearly 572. This is actually the word I use. I would never read it as “LiTCH iN” so there is zero problem here for me. Some dialects drop or add R’s so its tricky to share and compare words for numbers with 4’s. This is a known disadvantage of phonetic systems, but the user can always customize the phonetic/number assignments to better fit their own language. No “Major System Police” will fine you for deviating from the “classic mappings.” :wink:


I think this is really a matter of how you want to budget your time. If you use the majority of someone else’s associations, you’ll be spending more time reviewing and training them to make them reflexive. If you come up with your own, you may need more time to populate the list, but you will likely spend less time getting them to be automatic since the connections are already present in your own brain.

Maybe the best suggestion would be to try to meet somewhere in the middle. Go through each entry and if there is a reflexive association for it, put it in. If nothing pops into your head after 10 seconds or so, fill it in with a placeholder that you’ve found externally. Someone else’s words will take just as much time to learn as a word that took you 5 minutes to come up with. There is no pre-connected association for either, so you might as well spend less time populating the list.

Many times when you actually start training for recognition speed, your brain will make a snap connection in the pressure of the moment, so the process is one of pretty constant revision early on anyway.

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@TheHumanTim - Your Sea Anemone story associated with 223 due to your mispronouncing it as “aNeNoMe” resonates with me too but in another way. I have my 4 of Spades in my Dominic encoded cards as the Vulcan from Star Wars Mr. Spock as “Dr Spock” because I have always believed “Spock” (the Vulcan) was a Doctor. I suppose it may be an easy exercise to find a replacement for my Dr Spock (as 4 of Spades) for accuracies sake but perhaps it best I pretend I have bestowed an “honorary doctorate” upon Spock and just let it go. I am also well aware that there was an American Pediatrician (Dr Benjamin Spock) but he is nowhere near as colourful nor as animated as my fake Dr Spock with the pointy ears!

I also can’t use Donna Summer as the 4 of Spades as I have her as my Queen of Clubs (as she was popularly known as the (Queen of Disco). So Donna Summer represents Queen of Clubs as in Nightclubs!

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