Hi @thinkaboutthebible here’s my response after reading through and thinking about your system
About twice a month, I get the opportunity to share a 30 minute lesson at my church. The lessons are preplanned, but I taylor it during my practice and rehearsal. My preparation starts 3-4 days before hand where I read through the lesson plan on my 45 min bus and train ride to work. These are topical lessons and
may contain 5-6 bible verses that I would like to quote verbatim.
there are several speaking points that I would like to recall during the speech so I don’t have to keep on looking at my notes
I want to remember the verses and speaking points for a month, so I can recall or summarise it at the next meeting.
Of course I would like to remember the scriptures long term, but for now these are my immediate and main goals.
@eung, well, you have two goals. One is the short-term recall of the speeches/lessons you give and the other is the long-term goal of remembering the scriptures. Let’s tackle the lesson with speaking points first.
You should be able to outline your lesson with a summary of what you will talk about for around five minutes per point. There is an introduction and a closing. That tallies up to one intro point and four talking points. If you have 65 loci you should be able to divide them up into areas which have a good grouping for five points per lesson. By the time you get around to the seventh lesson, you can start reusing the loci. But you will have been able to recall the last five lessons and review them as necessary.
You will also probably use substitute words for the keywords of the talking points as an encoding system. Amazing grace = sitting down at a table to pray at Thanksgiving and playing a little handheld maze game. If you have subpoints, you can link them to that image with action to form a little story.
You also want to remember the Bible verses. That would entail using substitute words and the Major system if you did it by yourself. You might decide to use my structure and mnemonics as a system as well that works as a whole for the entire Bible. That’s 3.4. Actually it’s 3.5 in my revision that isn’t in the 7711 system.
Now to the next step and the next goal. You attach your talking points to your loci to practice what I would call a set of terrain pegs, and see if they stick. You practice the Major system to help you with my 7711 system. You pick out the verses and find the preplanned mnemonic images that I use in my system to help you find the cue. And then you practice the verbatim recall of that verse using as many keywords as necessary turned into a story. In order to understand the imagery of the 7711 system you might have to walk through the pegs and stories that underlie the books first and then pick up the story here and there. It’s such a big system that it takes time to get it in your head.
The next steps are about conversion so if you want, you can post a few of your talking points and scriptures to associate it with. I’ll reply back with some visual images that I would use so you can see how it works.
Let me know if you have any questions about what I discussed above and I look forward to seeing how you apply the system in your lessons. That encourages me to continue to fill it out.
BTW, the emphasis of the current document available for download on my github site is for the scripture memorization itself. In the first post, the different processes (3.4, 3.5, etc.) were identified and really apply to any significant memorization project you have. I removed them from the document and put them in my unpublished Memory Manual for general use.
Hi @thinkaboutthebible I’m trying to breakdown what you’re saying by using a lesson that I’ll eventually share here.
I will revisit the substitute words for the talking points, and also sub points. But for now can you please explain how you use the Major System to create images for books of the bible, chapters and verses to reference scriptures? If you can point me to the structure you use that would be great, and please give some examples in the Google Docs. Thanks Doug
@eung, I have most of my information available from my repository at githhub. There you’ll find my Major system toolkit where I select one of the words that match the numeric order of the OT or NT books, chapter and verse numbers. Good luck to you.
Doug
@eung, it’s a little complicated so I wrote it up in the document you can find on my memory respository on my github account called Hoff-7711 Bible mnemonic toolkit.pdf. It’s not a complete document yet but the design is mostly there. I decided summaries were good for people learning it and I’m filling those in soon. Always go back and check for an update. You’ll see a version number in the header. If you have any problems getting it or understanding anything let me know.
Doug
Thanks Doug i’m slowly working through your version of the Major system and it looks pretty good so far.
Also is there a site where you can look up and listen to the sounds of the major system?
When I’m working with a foreign language, I use Google Translate to pronounce the words. Have it pronounce any one-digit keyword from my Major System Toolkit or any other listing of Major system keywords.
Doug