Ok so i have been trying to master Mind palace for a year now, but i didnt know how as the only source i had was few youtube videos until i discovered this website and so i thought i ask my doubts here,
How do u visualize words like can,this, that, etc,
for instance take the sentence “They have this technology in Japan” i am able to visualize keywords like Technology but i cant visualize the words “They have this”.
How do u memorize a sentence properly?
Do u just take the keywords and visualize them and store them in ur loci or visualize each word one by one or do u combine words together and then visualize them
and if yes, then once again how do u visualize words such as “They, that, could, etc”
And some tips and tricks on mind palaces would be nice too, thank you.
Sound alikes and words that contain at least part of the word in question, whenever possible, sometimes just context.
Can = A can.
This-tle
That-ch(ed roof cottages- could easily use Trogdor the burninator for it!)
Etc-h( a sketch)
A group of robed figures (they) holding (have) thistle(this) above their heads, surround a machine (technology), they throw the thistle into it (in), then a red sun rises behind them (Japan).
I’m still pretty new and don’t practice much, especially verbatim so that might be pretty clumsy but that kind of scene usually works well for me.
if you need to memorize verbatim, for example a script for a movie or theatre play, it exist no method then repeating it till it is in your head letter for letter.
Yes you can do it with memory palaces and other techniques.
But if your boss/director of the play wants you to say a specific sentence exactly as written, I see no point in trying to overuse mnemotechniques.
When I remember correctly Harry Loraine wrote about it in different books of how students of him remembered when they need to start talking.
They make an association between the last sentence or part of it from the person before them and the start of their sentence.
In the case where you really need word for word, like in a theater script…
I would do a memory palace with a station for each line/sentence (whatever subdivision that feels logical to you), with mnemonics for the main keywords and/or for the first words.
It’s not an obligatory step, but that way, you can always know “where you are” in the story. It avoids drawing a complete blank if you lost track, you can at least restart anywhere.
And then the first letter method, to get the rest down (filler words and such).
Then when you’ve learnt it, say it from beginning to end, notice the places/transitions where you hesitate and drill specially these passages.
Explaining the first letter method if you don’t know it yet:
So if you learn verbatim a language you know well those connection word can be infered from context and the other word around. If you remeber “technology” and “japan” then your mind can fill out the blank. If you miss it doing a mistake will even get the memorization easier.
I only try to memorize verbatim poem and music lyrics as its easier to get it with the rythm I never tried with a script or something.
I dont know how to use mnemonics to vervatim. But to study I make a personal explanation of the things. And then I write a lot of times. The mnemonics I use for ideas. Example you have to remember the phrase of a script: hello doctor I think that all youve say is wrong. Im going to denounce to authorities (my english is not good sorry) then I would write what is saying. He dont Believe the doctor is honest and wants to denounce. Then you write it. You Will have mistakes. Then practise the mistakes. Ideas to mnemonics: doctor. Wrong. Authorities.
if you want to memorize something word for word. You need to be very good at making images. “they have this technology in japan” can be made using 6 images. To decrease the amount of images. you can say change the sentence to “that japan tech” japan tech is an easy image. and that is just a word which translates to “they have this” I personally would make this into 1 image. only one which is a digital sakura tree . exactly the one in a game I used to play called yandere simulator. it’s digital, japanese, and there’s a tree which refers to the number 3, 3 words. when u look at this tree in your memory palace thinking “that japanese tree” becomes easy. Keep in mind it’s absurd that I need to make an image for each sentence, where most textbooks have hundreds and hundreds of sentences. Verbatism is something that’s very advance and not for your average mnemonic guy
Hello THEMASTERRGE I think you should make a image like “They have this technology in japan” into a visual iamge that has motion. For instants imagine a group of aliens hiding advance technology a japanese city like tokyo the aliens are eating ramen and sushi they aliens. This sound crazy but it works trust me. This only take one image make sure your images have animation.
I’ve memorized over 1000 lines of blank verse with the memory palace. I’ll give some examples of line to image. I will say that I used extensive imagery and a lot of punning at first and now I’m thinking about cutting back and just encoding the first two words of each line with a peg system image.
The main benefit of the memory palace is in the way it allows you to organize text and stick it in your long term memory. But if you want a more image reliant approach, here are some examples from book 1 of Paradise Lost.
Line 275: Of hope in fears and dangers, heard so oft
soldier looks to the flag (locus) as his hope though he is in a dramatic pose with torn clothes, fearful and in danger. except on the flag is the face of ben franklin, cause its a NicKeL (major system image for 275). the soldier is annoyed bc he hears a buzzing, swats at his ears, except he hears it so oft, keeps swatting at it.
Line 571: Their number last he sums. And now his heart
a man sits on the trash can (locus) as he does his telecommunication job. “What are the numbers… the last ones?” He sums them up, and the result is so startling he has a heart attack
These images aren’t great necessarily but they’ve worked for me at least insofar as when I remember the image it prompts the line well. As I said I have been steering towards less mental load and letting rote memorization shoulder more of the weight, but there are tradeoffs either way.
Hi. Thats difficult for me. I like the story method. I unite several words and then only remember the first. One Image for all a paragraph is weak for me.
If you’re comfortable reading English, there are a number of books that go into detail about memory palaces. One that I’ve read recently is specifically devoted to using memory palaces for verbatim memorization: Solomon’s Memory Palace by Bob Lingerfelt. If you’d like, you can read my review of it here: My Recent Reviews [Memory Books] - #9 by RMBittner; you’ll just need to scroll down to the title.
Since you’re somewhat new to memory palaces, I’d highly recommend Lingerfelt’s book. Although I had some issues with it, I think it would offer some invaluable advice for you.
Well u visualized the words number,last, sums and heart and of course u will be able to remember the line but my problem is i am able to remember them too but i will leave the words such as “Their” of course it is a minor word but it indeed plays a major role in the sentence and people did suggest me to associate those such words with an object but I wanna know what’s ur opinion on it, thanks.
I do use this story technique for some passages but i find it quite difficult, most of the time I forget some certain part of the story or mix them up resulting in a mess, thanks for ur suggestion though!
You have to make other things if you try story method. Practise a lot of times the words not the story. I use draws and works for me. Helped me a lot to study. The story helps at the beggining. Then you can remember the words. Is not the best method but is Quick and easy.
