How far can a Peg List go?

I’ve had to take a backseat with memory training, but I’m trying to retain some form of practice with a peg list and memorising certain lists.

I definitely find it incredibly effective in encoding one piece of information to one peg, but when trying to encode something extra to the peg, it immediately feels cluttered, in some capacity. I’m able to link peg one to, say, Afghanistan (1st country alphabetically), but I struggle to encode its capital city Kabul as efficiently as I did the country to the peg.

It doesn’t feel impossible, but, by comparison, if I had a Memory Palace location for Afghanistan, and encoded a representation of it, that’s a lot easier to link its capital to? The long and short of it is that I feel like you can go a lot further with a memory palace’s encoded information per point, VS a peg list’s information encoded per peg. Some thoughts on this matter:

1). Maybe it’s that pegs are characters that it feels less malleable than locations?

2). I think there might be an “efficiency” system to trade off with; peg lists are going to be useful for things like US States in alphabetical order, but when I want to retain information like the state capital, nickname and size, that’s best equipped for something like a Memory Palace

If anyone has any experience or advice regarding peg systems and their mileage, I’d massively appreciate it.

You could always make sub-pegs, though you might decide against it. If 1 is Afghanistan, 1a can be Kabul, and 1a-1 the municipality where Kabul lies, and so on. You can really make peg lists sideways and across, if you feel like it.

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Interesting - how would the sub-pegs work? Would 1a be linked to the first peg, or would I use a distinctive/different peg for Kabul?

Maybe both? Say your symbol for 1 is a fishing rod, which you have already linked to your symbol for Afghanistan; to this you link you symbol for a, which for our purposes can be Ava Gardner, to which you link your symbol for Kabul.

Then you create a separate file where Ava is holding the fishing rod, to which you link Kabul, then the next symbol, maybe Brad Pitt for b, then the fact about Kabul that you want to remember, like that there’s ~5 million people living there, or that its province is also named Kabul.

I agree that it can get a bit crowded. Maybe experiment with splitting it into sub-files/pegs and tell us about your findings?

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I would suggest that you can just use your peg image as the beginning of a story. Link your image for “A” to Afghanistan, then link each item image in turn to form a story.

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Ah, okay! Sounds like a great way to make a distinctive drop-down list by utilising multiple peg lists. I guess my only apprehension is that, if I wanted to then link Tirana to Albania for Peg #2, would that reuse Ava Gardner in this case?

I definitely think the idea is great, it’s just the matter of how the pegs stack that’d get me. Still, as my first peg list is Pokémon and my alphabetical peg list is wrestlers, I think there’d be distinctive interactions between the pegs no matter if I reuse the A wrestler a bunch of times.

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Ahh okay! So utilising the linking method as opposed to a peg list for the quick recall. I’ll see how that works because that could easily circumvent some of the heavy lifting that’s being put on some of the pegs.

Part of me wanted to do a ‘quick’ recall list whereby using the pegs I can quickly determine something like the number of countres beginning with F, or which country is 83rd alphabetically in my list, as well as a more detailed list of a country and its core elements I’d like to retain, and I worry distinguishing away from a peg list can conflate what I’ve used in the ‘quick’ and ‘detailed’ lists together, but I might be overthinking it.