Help finding words/phrases to keep final phonetic as F, not V!

TheHumanTim · October 13, 2024, 4:44pm

In my continual quest to refine my new 2-card system, I’d like to try to optimize another value sound, and could use everyone’s help brainstorming options for the new entries!

Currently the cards with a value of 8 in the first position in the pair generate only the “F” sound. When 8’s are in the second position of a pair, they currently can generate the F or V sound (like in standard Major System). I would like to optimize this and have the 8’s always generate ONLY an F sound no matter which position in the pair the are in. This will make reading and learning the words MUCH easier as it will focus me in on the correct sounds faster.

Here are the phonetic combos that I need to fix so that the final sound is F. There are some specific restrictions on word constructions that are indicated in each group. Additional consonant sounds after the listed ones are ok.

Any help is appreciated! Thanks all!

These MUST start with the first sound indicated, NO leading vowels or sounds that are usually “free sounds” in major. The three specific indicated sounds MUST be the first three consonant sounds in the word or phrase. No alternative sound options are allowed.
S - L - F
S - F - F
T - S - F
T - V - F
N - T - F
N - N - F
N - SH/CH/J - F
N - P - F
R - S - F
R - R - F
R - F - F
L - F - F
J/CH/SH - B - F
K - S - F
K - N - F
K - R - F
K - L - F
V - V - F
D - SH/CH/J - F
D - F - F
W - S - F
W - M - F
H - R - F
H - SH/CH/J - F

These MUST have leading vowel sounds. The two specific consonant sounds indicated MUST be the first two consonant sounds in the word or phrase. No alternative sound options are allowed.
VOWEL - F - F
VOWEL - D - F
VOWEL - B - F

These must be actions that I can imagine myself performing on something. The indicated consonant sounds MUST be the first two consonant sounds in the word or phrase. No alternative sound options are allowed.
[action]: S - F
[action]: T - F
[action]: N - F
[action]: M - F
[action]: L - F
[action]: J/SH/CH - F
[action]: F - F
[action]: D - F
[action]: V - F

selmoicusenintadni · October 13, 2024, 5:43pm

Sylphstorm

Salafi Muslim

Solo Flight

Sulfur

Notification, Notify, &c.

Not for Sale

California

Horrific, Horrify, &c.

Muffling (putting one’s hand over another’s mouth, optionaly with a gag of some sort in it)

Laughing
Loafing (as in on a couch)

Chafing (rubbing hard)

Doffing (to remove a piece of clothing)

TheHumanTim · October 13, 2024, 5:45pm

@selmoicusenintadni very helpful! Thanks!

Josh · October 13, 2024, 8:53pm

Just brainstorming out loud:

Anyone named Saul F., Sal F., or someone with the last name of Slaff.

Or seal food.

Silly face?

SF Ferry Building, but I guess that starts with “es-”.

That’s the code for Treviso Airport, but I’m not sure if it’s a memorable image.

TV Frame? TV Food (like a frozen TV dinner, if they are still called “TV dinners”).

Gnat fly?

Nine figures or nine fingers?

If you’re familiar with synthesizers, this could be a notch filter. That kind of filter makes a notch shape like this:

Or something like “nudge forward” or “nosh food”.

R-R-U-F (dog word)

Kanáf means “wing” or “winged things” in Hebrew. (e.g., Genesis 7:14)

Another Hebrew word is “kesef” meaning silver (like the metal, money, or the color).

Car fender, car freshener, etc.

Call-something? Call forwarding might be too abstract.

VIVE Face tracker?

Dodge-, dish-, or dash-something?

It might be a stretch, but hash-fries?

fred2 · October 13, 2024, 10:57pm

Could S-L-F not be “SeLFie”. Like when someone is taking a “Selfie” on their cellphone for their Facebook stories?

TheHumanTim · October 13, 2024, 10:59pm

Good one Fred!

fred2 · October 13, 2024, 11:20pm

SFF could be an inhabitant of South Africa (like myself) LOL!

SaFFer. I will see if I can find a cartoon that takes the “micky” out of us SAFFERS. In the context of a typical white SAFFER it would be someone who is braaiing (or as the Americans would call it barbequing) steaks and drinking copious amounts of brandy and cokes and reveling in the fact that we SAFFers are 4 times Rugby World Cup Champions. That image resonates with me but may not work for you. If you lived here you would clearly understand my example!

“Bokbefok” is an Afrikaans slang word literally translated meaning we a “Springbok F…ing Crazy!”

Above cartoon sketch is a depiction of our national rugby team (Springboks) braaiing the New Zealanders (Kiwis) - Rugby is like a religion here!

Believe it or not we even have a “National Braai Day in South Africa” on 24th September to celebrate our heritage.

The use of the word “Saffers” is not a derogatory term. It’s used in much the same way as we refer to Australians as “Aussies” and New Zealanders as “Kiwis”.

Never really understood if calling Americans “Yanks” is derogatory? Perhaps it could be construed to be so, but calling South Africans (Saffers) is all good.

fred2 · October 13, 2024, 11:45pm

KRF = KReeF

In South Africa we call them crayfish or kreef. Their correct name is rock lobster or spiny lobster .

Afrikaans, from Dutch kreeft lobster, crayfish , from Middle Dutch creeft; akin to Old High German krebiz crab.

Again, probably wouldn’t work too well for you but “KReeF” is the same as “Crayfish” in South Africa. Every South African would know that but perhaps again culturally specific to our neck of the woods?

RFF could be a RuFF which is worn on a shirt by Shakespearian men:

or RFF could be RaFFle (like raffle tickets)

Rumburak · October 15, 2024, 12:22pm

Here a couple of spontaneous associations:

[action]: L - F = Leaf (through)
[action]: J/SH/CH - F = Chafe
[action]: D - F = Dive
[action]: V - F = Weave (does that follow your rules?)

TheHumanTim · October 15, 2024, 3:29pm

Some of these work! But the all the sounds need to be precisely as indicated… Sleeve and Slave wont work, but something like Self would

I’ve made progress on most of these, I’m about to post a hopefully final list with just 12 missing entries, hope you’ll take a look!

LociInTheSky · October 24, 2024, 4:01pm

Use “th” as an alternative/cheat for “f/v”.

RMBittner · October 29, 2024, 5:29pm

Hey, if that’s the worst thing you call us, that would be great!

As an American, I don’t think of “Yanks” as being in any way derogatory. It’s in an old American song (“Yankee Doodle Dandy”) and it’s the name of a storied baseball club, the New York Yankees. (But I’m not familiar with the etymology of the word…maybe it should offend me! )

Bob

selmoicusenintadni · October 29, 2024, 9:19pm

If I recall correctly it was supposed to derogatory, but the colonists just ran with it, which is honestly the smartest thing to do with an insult

TheHumanTim · October 29, 2024, 9:32pm

Its also a bit regionalized in the US. For Americans, northerners are usually considered “Yanks” by southerners, especially the New England area of the country. I would never refer to someone who live south of Washington DC as a “Yank.”

In British (and Aussie?) slang, “Yanks” generally refers to Americans regardless of region.

fred2 · October 29, 2024, 10:16pm

I had an American aunt (not my mother or father’s sister) but an aunt nonetheless (like a second mother) to me in South Africa in my “ten to teen years”. Her name was Mary-Lou and she had a very broad American Southern accent. I think she was originally from the state of Georgia. She had emigrated to South Africa in 1970 with her husband who was an engineer. She would often say “those goddam Yanks”, and thinking about it now, she was probably referring to the New Yorkers or American states outside of her birth state of Georgia in the USA?

TheHumanTim · October 29, 2024, 10:31pm

Absolutely!

CakeForBreakfast · October 31, 2024, 9:08am

Could you give us an update with the last few you’re stuck on?

TheHumanTim · October 31, 2024, 10:18am

Found fits for everything!

S - L - F = sylph (air spirit)
S - F - F = so foof (tiny dog with massive puffed fur)
T - S - F = toss off (acrobat pair)
T - V - F = tv phone (video conference business phone)
N - T - F = net fence (chicken wire)
N - N - F = nanny fran (fran drescher, “the nanny”)
N - SH/CH/J - F = nacho fries
N - P - F = nope fish (nasty bottom dwelling demon fish)
R - S - F = rice field
R - R - F = rarefied (vacuum chamber)
R - F - F = roof frame (unfinished beams of a house roof)
L - F - F = leaf fan
J - B - F = job fair (room full of tiny desks with awkward recruiters in suits)
K - S - F = kiss off (kissing booth)
K - N - F = conifer (pine cones)
K - R - F = carafe
K - L - F = kill off (ghostface villain from scream movies)
F - V - F = five fight (hockey penalty box)
D - SH/CH/J - F = dutch field (flowers)
D - F - F = doofy female
W - S - F = wiz fire (magic fireballs)
W - M - F = wham fight (1960s batman fight with big words like “wham” and “pow” appearing)
H - R - F = horrify (corny monster mash dancing)
H - SH/CH/J - F = hitch flag (obnoxious truck flag attached to a trailer hitch)

VOWEL - F - F = oaf fight (huge mma fighter, brock lesnar)
VOWEL - D - F = ad flyer
VOWEL - B - F = ab fab (british comedy characters)

[action]: S - F = sift
[action]: T - F = tee off
[action]: N - F = knife (stab)
[action]: M - F = muffle
[action]: L - F = loofa (scrub)
[action]: J/SH/CH - F = shuffle
[action]: F - F = foof (make frizzy and puffy)
[action]: D - F = defy (protest against, picket)
[action]: V - F = wave off (dismissively)