Does anyone else use hand gestures while encoding in a memory palace? Is this okay for competitions?

[gemini1]

Here Anastasia Woolmer memory coach and 2x australian memory champion dances a string of numbers !

- YouTube

[2704]

Why are memory palaces better than simple links? Do palaces engage an additional area of the brain dealing with space, motion and time. I think palaces are one of the best documented improvements and wonder how many other techniques double down on that?

[Biondi1789]

I dont know how to use well palaces. I can use it if they are very simple and connnected with other systems. Like linked , draws maps etc. I dont understand how connect the the New Word or the Image easily. With few items i can but is a effort. I a lot of items i get lost. May be something that I have to learn. Maybe is lacking something between steps

[MemoryArchitect]

I have some posts in this forum that might be helpful to you:

Supercharging the Method of Loci with Interaction Chains

So, I was on the hunt for a way to make my mental images more memorable and harder to forget, you know? I wanted to be able to recall every single item without any slip-ups. After some digging and brainstorming, I came up with this cool technique that I think could be a game-changer. It’s basically an upgraded version of the method of loci, where you use a familiar place and specific spots within it to store your mental images. But here’s the fun part: instead of just placing the items at each …

Mastering Your Memory Palace: Tips and Tricks for Long-Term Retention and Effective Recall

About five months ago, in March 2024, I was trying to find a good way to learn English words since English isn’t my first language. I randomly found a user’s answer on Quora that talked about “the memory palace technique.” I had no idea what that was, but it sounded interesting and a bit fancy. So, I looked it up and found out it’s a memory trick where you use familiar places to help you remember things. This was the first time I learned about memory techniques and mnemonic devices. I gave it a …

Two Simple Mini-Tips to Enhance Your Method of Loci Experience

In my previous post, I shared comprehensive tips and tricks for maximizing the effectiveness of the method of loci. Today, I’ll present two additional, concise tips that can benefit both beginners and experts in creating more memorable mental images and using this method more efficiently. Let’s explore these mini-tips: When creating mental images, don’t confine yourself to a single viewpoint. Instead, imagine yourself as a “camera” and visualize your mental images and objects from various an…

To summarize briefly, here is the key takeaway:

1. Create Interactions Between Items

• Instead of just placing items at each locus, create interactions between them to provide multiple cues for recall.
• Example: If you need to remember an apple, a reading lamp, a car, and a phone, visualize the apple at your front door, the reading lamp sitting on the apple in the hallway, the car in the living room with the lamp still on it, and the phone resting on the car in the kitchen.

2. Use People or Living Things

• Populate your memory palace with vivid characters or creatures instead of plain objects to enhance long-term retention.
• Associate information with these animated spots for better recall.
• Example: To remember the word “apple,” personify it by giving it a face and personality. Imagine a chubby, curly-haired guy holding an apple and engaging in a conversation about it.

3. Incorporate Sensory Details and First-Person Perspective

• Imagine touching, manipulating, smelling, and tasting objects from a first-person perspective to create stronger neural connections.
• Example: If you’re trying to remember a rose, visualize its vibrant color, feel the softness of its petals, inhale its sweet fragrance, and even imagine the taste of rosewater as you bring it close to your mouth.

4. Associate Each Piece of Information with Its Locus

• Connect mental images strongly to their locations by imagining them in a memorable way at each spot.
• Example: Instead of just placing a mental image of a sheep at your front door, imagine a sheep coming out of your front door in an unusual and memorable way.

5. Make Multiple Copies of the Mental Image

• Place the same image in different spots within your memory palace to ensure easier recall if one spot is forgotten.
• Example: If you want to remember an apple, don’t just think of one apple by itself; imagine several apples in different rooms or spots within your mind palace.

6. Use Two Images Per Locus

• Link two interacting images per locus to enhance memory and create stronger neural connections.
• Example: For remembering “apple” and “pineapple,” link them together by imagining an apple sitting on top of a pineapple at one locus.

7. Visualize from Multiple Angles

• Imagine yourself as a “camera” and visualize objects from various angles, circling around them for better visualization.
• Example: When visualizing an object like a book, circle around it at least three times while maintaining focus and observing intently from different perspectives.

8. Describe Mental Images Internally

• Narrate the scenarios internally as you visualize them to reinforce the mental images in your memory palace.
• Example: If associating “jam” with a person in your memory palace, narrate internally: “So [name of that person], I’m giving you this jam, and you’re eating it.”

[Biondi1789]

Txs great work. Im going to watch it.

[Magno]

I use up to 7 images per locus for example: man, woman, animal, object, place (not really a place as such I just extract any object from a particular place ‘airport’ - ‘airplane’) action/affection and quality.

Placed can be even more, if each character carries an object in each hand, if he carries something on the neck, on the feet, etc…, a loci can include a good amount of images, now if you are starting don’t place too many images, try to train your observation and add as you advance, at the beginning it may seem discouraging at times, but with practice it will become instinctive, before I had problems with the faces and now I use them even to order my loci, I don’t like them to be empty without characters to animate them.

[Biondi1789]

Hi. Its like a Pao or something. I asked People about how use it to remember things that are not numbers. This could be useful.

[Magno]

Well, I use it to memorize really abstract words (there are also other systems like for mathematical formulas using the inverse Polish notation)… I look for the places in youtube or videogames, as the places are much easier to find you only have to take time to order the material you want to memorize in excel sheets, I use the places also to memorize systems, because with just one search I find from tours to mansions, palaces, etc…, these places although new are easy to memorize if you give context for example in a ‘church you can see a funeral and in the pulpit mocks the father while a family cries in front of the coffin’, so you could create a theater with distinctive places or memorize any science or book if you set your mind to it.

[Biondi1789]

Dont mock the coffin in the movie that is bad to remember a long time

[Biondi1789]

How do you do? You look for videos of houses and video games? Thats interesting. If you played the game you know very well.

[Magno]

You just convert the information to mnemotectic image and place it from left to right or vice versa, as you prefer, if you forget an image do not worry you just need to improve the visualization and you can do it improving in each session by 1%.

[Magno]

Yes, I have video games, but I don’t dedicate more than 1 or 2 hours to them on Sundays.

[NobleSnake]

This is so interesting, I mean using memory palaces not to memorize lists or info but guiding models for thinking itself. I am very, very interested in this and thank you for sharing. Can you please kindly tell me more about this?

[Exploit]

reminds me of this dude in the anime “monster” that uses the movement of typing to remember stuff

Heinrich Lunge - Memory Palace ( method of loci) - Monster Anime

[Rangerlem]

This reminds me of Stan Tenen’s work, of the Meru Foundation, where he claims that each letter of the alphabet is the shadow of a hand gesture picking fruit from a tree. And depending on where you pick the fruit it causes your hand to make a gesture and that gesture has a meaning based on what we mean when we put our hands in those places. Stan said that when your hand is in certain places and curved as if it is holding on to a piece of fruit in your mind’s eye you can make various shapes out of it and those shapes line up with the earliest letters of the earliest alphabets, well at least the Hebrew alphabet anyways.. well this suggests that the alphabet is a memory palace. When the alphabet was first shown to Kings, they were appalled by it because they said it would stop people from remembering things. And what it did is it killed people from using memory palaces as their way of remembering things. No one does it anymore cuz we’ve got paper and pen. Nevertheless it does seem that the alphabet encodes The memory Palace that came before it built on gesture and meaning and sound. it is like one is a tree and each gesture is a branch reaching out for a fruit and each fruit gesture is a meaning that becomes a letter and the gestures together become words and you can see where magic is formed and where rituals gather around our movements and it’s all just about the shadow of our hand in our mind’s eye.