Deep Seek Thought for 4 Seconds and came up with this PAO 4 seconds WOW!

[MMScotofGlasgow]

I developed a list of characters for my PAO a few years ago.

Been using Deep Seek (AI Chinese - Free, by far the best AI I have experience with) for about a year for other things and so, this morning, for no reason other than curiosity, I gave it the list of one hundred names and asked it to come up with actions and objects for the list of characters I presented it with.

My system was A = 1 , B = 2, etc and N = 0 (Nothing)

I am gobsmacked with this result - many of the actions are actually better than my own, though some of the objects are a bit weird. And it may not know who some of the characters are but in all honesty, these small mistakes are easily corrected. e.g. Irving Irving was an actor in the Bosch series…

So:

I asked it to think ‘deeply’.

It did not really, 4 seconds is all it took: If I am honest, to think of the work I put in years ago with this - never again. I may hone this list.

It thought for FOUR seconds and produced this:

Deep Seek said: "I’ve gone through each character and suggested an Action (what they typically do) and an Object (something strongly associated with them). The goal is to make each image vivid, active, and easy to link to the number.

Here’s my version. Let’s compare notes afterwards!

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PAO: Person → Action → Object

#	Person	Action	Object
00	Nick Nairn	stirs	wok
01	Neil Armstrong	lands	lunar module
02	Nadia Boulanger	conducts	baton
03	Nicolas Copernicus	orbits	sun
04	Nelson Dellis	memorises	deck of cards
05	Noel Edmonds	presents	deal or no deal box
06	Nick Faldo	swings	golf club
07	Neil Gaiman	writes	quill
08	Noddy Holder	shouts	mirror (with “It’s Christmas!”)
09	Neil Innes	strums	ukulele
10	Andrew Neil	interviews	microphone
11	Alexander Alekhine	attacks	queen
12	Anita Blonde	dances	high heel
13	Alice Cooper	throws	snake
14	Albus Dumbledore	casts spell	wand
15	Albert Einstein	sticks out tongue	chalkboard
16	Alex Ferguson	chews	gum
17	Atul Gawande	operates	scalpel
18	Alfred Hitchcock	points	silhouette
19	Artificial Intelligence (Siri)	answers	iPhone
20	Bill Napier	writes	asteroid
21	Ben Affleck	acts	Oscar statue
22	Bilbo Baggins	hides	ring
23	Billy Connolly	strums	banjo
24	Bob Dylan	harmonica	motorcycle
25	Bernard Edwards	slaps	bass guitar
26	Bobby Fischer	stares	chess clock
27	Bill Gates	types	Windows logo
28	Ben Hogan	putts	golf ball
29	Bernard Ingham	briefs	newspaper
30	Connie Nielsen	fights	gladius (sword)
31	Charles Aznavour	croons	piano
32	Cilla Black	surprises	“Surprise Surprise” envelope
33	Coco Chanel	snips	little black dress
34	Chris Dula (designer)	sketches	chair
35	Clint Eastwood	squints	.44 Magnum
36	Carl Fogarty	races	motorcycle helmet
37	Cary Grant	runs	crop (North by Northwest)
38	Chris Hoy	pedals	gold medal
39	Celia Imrie	sips	teacup
40	Dracula (Nosferatu)	bites	coffin
41	David Attenborough	whispers	microphone
42	Derren Brown	hypnotises	pocket watch
43	David Coulthard	drives	racing helmet
44	David Dimbleby	introduces	BBC microphone
45	Duke Ellington	plays	grand piano
46	Dawn French	laughs	vicar’s dog collar
47	David Gilmour	bends string	black Stratocaster
48	Dustin Hoffman	runs (Rain Man)	toothpick
49	Denis Irwin	crosses	football
50	Expectant Nun	prays	rosary
51	Eamon Andrews	opens	This Is Your Life book
52	Ernest Borgnine	shouts	fire hose
53	Eric Clapton	solos	guitar strap
54	Edgar Degas	sculpts	ballet slipper
55	Eddie the Eagle	jumps	ski
56	Enzo Ferrari	revs	steering wheel
57	Elaine Gould	types	FIDE rulebook
58	Elizabeth Hurley	poses	safety pin
59	Eddie Izzard	runs	marathon bib
60	Florence Nightingale	carries	lamp
61	Fanny Adams / FM Alexander	stretches	chair (Alexander technique)
62	Frodo Baggins	carries	ring
63	Fanny Craddock	pipes	icing bag
64	Frankie Dettori	flies	saddle
65	Fiona Elliot	sings	music stand
66	Farrah Fawcett	tosses hair	red swimsuit poster
67	Frank Gardiner	robs	gold watch
68	Fred Hoyle	calculates	telescope
69	Frank Ifield (yodelling)	yodels	Alpine horn
70	Gary Numan	drives	car (Are ‘Friends’ Electric?)
71	Gillian Anderson	investigates	FBI badge
72	Geezer Butler	plays	bass guitar (heavy)
73	George Clooney	sips	Nespresso cup
74	Grace Darling	rows	lifeboat
75	Gareth Edwards	dives	rugby ball
76	Guy Fawkes	lights	barrel of gunpowder
77	Graham Greene	types	typewriter
78	George Harrison	strums	sitar
79	GI Joe	salutes	rifle
80	Horatio Nelson	looks	telescope (one eye)
81	Hans Asperger	observes	puzzle piece
82	Humphrey Bogart	wears	trench coat
83	Henry Cooper / Harry Carpenter	punches	boxing glove
84	Humphry Davy	ignites	miner’s lamp
85	Harry Enfield	shouts	“Loadsamoney” cash
86	Henry Fonda	votes	jury note
87	H.G. Wells	travels	time machine
88	Harry Houdini	escapes	straitjacket
89	Hazel Irvine	presents	snooker cue
90	Isaac Newton	sits under	apple
91	Ian Anderson	stands on one leg	flute
92	Ian Botham	bowls	cricket ball
93	Iain Cuthbertson	glares	Sutherland’s whisky glass
94	Ian Dury	blocks	wheelchair (or rhyming slang)
95	Idris Elba	drives	police badge (Luther)
96	Ian Ferns	(boxer?) punches	boxing glove
97	Ian Gillan	screams	microphone stand
98	Incredible Hulk	rips	torn shirt
99	Irving Irvine	sails	yacht

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Notes on My Choices

• Action verbs are mostly simple, physical, and easy to visualise (stirs, lands, swings, punches, etc.).
• Objects are distinctive and closely tied to the person’s public image or iconic prop.
• For some less famous names (e.g., Chris Dula, Ian Ferns), I made educated guesses based on their profession (designer, boxer). You can replace them with whatever works for you.
• I kept actions and objects distinct from the person (e.g., not “Fischer plays chess” – instead “Fischer stares at chess clock”).
• Some are playful or slightly absurd – that helps memory.

[Biondi1789]

Deepseek yes is impressive. I have used a little bit. But surprised me how clear explains. The pity is don’t make images.

[Hari-P (Hari)]

The pity is that it’s “only” associations and not a phonetic conversion system (like major).

Now THAT would have been impressive and a lot more useful! Alas, I have tried multiple times to get AI to use the major system. Either tons of errors or words that are unusable “I propose Ligaz for this number, an imaginary TV character” uh yeah thanks if it’s to completely invent words I could have done that myself.

[Goldfish (John L)]

@Hari-P

The pity is that it’s “only” associations and not a phonetic conversion system (like major).

it’s getting better around stuff like that, here’s a test i ran this morning: ChatGPT - PAO System for Primes . Still a lot of obvious improvement opportunities but the models are getting better in this field for sure

[Hari-P (Hari)]

Yes! It does seem decent. Unfortunately for me I’m using a modified version of major (and lots of words in french)… It wouldn’t be the first time it works for English well before in other languages.

That being said, I just finished searching for my 1000 keywords. Maybe by the time I finished “recovering” from that effort and I’m ready to tweak my system again, the models will be good enough with phonetics to help.

Edit: tried to ask him for 3 digits, it gave me:

Example mixed PAO:
500-286-191
A lessee lacing up a giant knifish with an exploding teapot

Not perfect (not sure what a “lesee” is, maybe laces?) buuut there is potential. Maybe I’ll ask it for ideas for the few numbers I’m not super satisfied with in my current system.

Edit2: trying to see what is different that makes it work better (besides time having passed and models making progress): instead of explainimg my phonetic system (which made a longer prompt) I converted a number I wanted to the number I should ask if I used major. And then asked for ideas.
So maybe it understands phonetics better or it just is able to use lists of keywords people did for major and published.