10000 Peg System for the Major System

Hey,

I know this has already been talked about, but has anyone created it?

Thanks.

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Yes, Simon Reinhard uses a 10,000 image system. Type his name into the search box. :slight_smile:

Edit: see 10,000-Image Number System.

I thought Simon was using a 1000 image system?

Mfad, there are much better and more effective ways to count cards than literally remembering them.

Hey,

I was wondering does anyone of any experience with multiple peg systems incorporating the major system?

I was thinking about building three different peg systems each containing 0 - 1300 words. One peg system would be devoted to adjectives, another would contain nouns, and then finally another one would utilize verbs. As you process long string of numbers. You would first use an adjective, then a noun, and finally allocate a verb to this image. You then could place this in a loci and embellish further upon it adding addition items and associates to these items depending on the string of numbers you obtained from whatever the scenario.

This would stop you from using tons of different items in your loci cutting the number of unique objects in an image down from 3 to 1 and additionally would stop you from linking adjectives to solidify loci in your journey or story, that they themselves do not serve any purpose, but to embellish your story. Now these adjectives can be utilized and use to code abstract information and not just the items in the loci themselves. That is huge reduction in unnecessary information and with these additional pieces of information it would allow solidification to your loci or story making it more vivid.

Has anyone had any experience with this? Has anyone already made these types of peg systems because it would take me a lot of time that I would rather put to memorizing the system then building something from scratch.

How do you think this system would compare to a larger 10,000 peg system? I was thinking that the efficient would increase because of how you are condensing the journey and making it far more compact. Making sure that ever piece of information you place in this loci translates to something and it not just their as extra useless information that serves only to embellish and solidify the loci, but it self does not translate to a number or the abstract.

If any one sees and weakness or problems with this logic please feel free to chime in.

If anyone wants to give feedback I would be extremely grateful. I am only beginning my mnemonic journey and I know you guys have far more experience with mnemonics than I. if this has already been talked about I apologize I did search before hand.

Thank you.

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I will be using this system for more than counting cards. I was wondering per encoding large amounts of numbers at one time if this would be a good system? I do not want to build an entire system if there are better ones out there. I feel like this would be better than a 10,000 peg system and any other major system alternative that I have come cross. I would just like feedback on other possible choices/better ones.

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He switched to a 10,000 image number system and started using it in competitions in 2010.

Have you tried memorizing by adjective? I wonder if it would be more difficult to remember adjectives than objects, people, and actions. Worth experimenting with though…

There’s Tony Buzan’s SEMMM (Self-Enhancing Master Memory Matrix), which gives you 10,000 pegs with only 200 images.

Basically you develop your pegs for 00-99 as you would in your favorite system (Major, Dominic, or whatever). You then develop 10 categories of things (0-9), and 10 images for each of those categories (0-9).

Now, to connect a number such as 1234 to anything, you imagine category 1 and image 2 in that category in conjunction with your standard image for 34.

For example, if category 1 is Star Trek characters for me, and image number 2 in that category for me is Neelix, and 34 for me is a lawn mower, I would picture Neelix pushing a lawn mower (perhaps he’s running it over the top of Voyager).

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I’d call the Dominc System (person-action) a 200-image system. You need to spend time making 100 images for persons and 100 images for actions. :slight_smile:

From what I understand, the amazing thing that Simon Reinhard is doing is using 10,000 base images without reusing them.

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My way of seeing it is that the Dominic System (or more specifically: person-action) is a 200-image system that uses compound (or “complex”) images.
I think of the PAO system as being a 300-image compound system.
SEMMM sounds like a 120-image compound-image system.

The Ben System is a 2,704 single-image system. (some people create only 2,652 images)
The Simon Reinhard System is a 10,000 single-image system.
There are also many people who use 100 or 1,000 single-image systems. (e.g., 2 or 3 digit major system)

There is more than one way to look at it, so I’m not disagreeing with you – just writing about the way that I categorize the systems in my mind. :slight_smile:

The most important thing in these competitions is speed, so if a 10,000 base image is being used, less time is spent imagining as those numbers have been thoroughly pre-memorized.

a PAO system with 10 actions and 10,000 base images would yield a theoretically impressive 9-digit recall per each visualization (0000-9999 object + 0-9 action + 0000-9999 object = 0000 0 0000 visualization). I’m not a fan of using more than 10 actions because they take extra time to visualize.

The only difficult thing would be creating a 10,000 base image system in the first place. But… it’s possible.