Sorry, I forgot to apply the rule that competitors in divisions 1 and 2 who fail to upload videos for 3 matches are removed.
This means @SayakaHokazono and @Mashrab are removed, and @Konsti and @Badr4sudan are automatically promoted with no playoff match.
There are only two division 4s, so only two of the division 5 runner-ups are eligible for promotion. In this case the competitors with the best results (average points per match) were those in divisions 5d and 5b.
And how about me simon?
@Simon Not sure Yas and me can play this week, our availabilities do not match. We would try for next week if that works?
@MatteoCillo As I understand it, you did not provide any videos, so unfortunately you were also removed from the season.
Yeah yeah it’s right.
I just want to know my division for the next season. 1st one again?
Hi all,
I have a question regarding the Division 1/2 Playoff / relegation and promotion.
In Div 1a and 2a, it seems to be clear - since Sayaka was removed, I promoted automatically with no playoff match.
In Div 1b, Sylvain (@Sylle) finished 5th so he needs to play the 2nd place of Division 2b. But here is the problem: In the thread (and some weeks ago, also in the league table) it showed Lorenzo (@Rizzo15) as the opponent. However, now, Nathan (@HeycestNathan) is highlighted in green as 2nd place which suggests he is promoted directly, whereas Lorenzo is only 3rd and thus stay in Division 2.
Probably following this thread, Sylle and Lorenzo played their playoff match already, but it is not as it stands according to the latest league table.
Was there any further communication about this?
Thanks for more information on that!
I’m interested in some info too 
Just my estimation as an outside observer:
So, what to do now? I think the solution would have to take into account the following:
It seems, based on that, a good solution could be:
Lorenzo advances based on his win and Sylvain plays Nathan. The winner plays in div. 1 next season, too.
When is the start of the next season?
Totally agree with you about that. Being promoted to div 1 whith only one win seems… to easy !
Would love to play sylvain if it’s possible.
Sorry, I dropped the ball on this. I agree that a playoff match between @Sylle and @HeycestNathan makes the most sense, with @Rizzo15 also being promoted.
So, we have a new playoff match:
| Match | Player 1 | Player 2 | League Page |
|---|---|---|---|
| Division 1/2 Playoff | @Sylle (Sylvain Arvidieu) | @HeycestNathan (Nathan Renaud) | League page |
Sorry, but I’m afraid you’ll be in division 2 next season.
In this exceptional circumstance we will have 2 automatic promotion spots in your division, so that the other competitors still have a chance for promotion despite being in the presence of greatness.
hello @Simon and all;
i want to say something about my situation for the seasons.
i didn’t upload any videos of the matches so it’s definitely right that i didn’t participate in the finals and it’s equally right that i was removed. honestly i didn’t upload the first videos out of laziness, but i didn’t upload the final videos because i didn’t think it was right to give an advantage to a particular person for reasons external to the match. let me explain better, if i won with 2 opponents and i uploaded the first video but not the second, there would be a player who gets 3 points and one who gets only one, even though they both lost. this is the reason why i didn’t upload my last 2 videos. anyway i have all the recordings of my matches, so i would like to ask if there is any supervisor willing to check my recordings to not be removed from the first division.
so i ask instead to put an extra slot in the second division, to make this exception in my case. if anyone doesn’t agree i understand very well and i accept the consequences.
As a participant who was often affected by players who didn’t show up to a match or lost due to no video provided, I am very thankful that you circumvented the case that different players in the division profit significantly differently to “your laziness”. So: thank you for having this in mind.
On the other hand, I would argue that rules are rules and should not be broken due to “laziness”. If many people get “lazy”, we don’t need any rules anymore and we can quit playing games because everyone would do “what they want”.
I don’t want to be someone to decide about the exception here, but making decisions like these for the first time always creates precedential cases and then it will not remain an exception anymore. Maybe this view helps people (you and all others) to understand why the supervising team would decide in a certain way. Decisions should never be made because of greatness of certain athletes, but fair through all players who behave according to rules.
I don’t want to attack or punish anyone specifically, but this is my take on that from my position and with my experiences as a fellow athlete. All the best (and thanks for your honest words)!
Hi Matteo, just some thoughts from my side (I also wrote that in the other thread where you made the same post):
You say you had this rationale just for your last two videos. That means you did not upload your first three videos, as you say, “out of laziness”. That also means you were already removed after the third missed deadline: at that point it did not matter whether you did or did not upload or video 4 and 5 - the rules had already set those matches to 0-4. That Simon Orton only recalled a bit later that three missed deadlines means removal cannot really make a difference.
Being removed has the consequence that all matches are set to 0-4 which automatically means that that person has last place in their division (red spot). And a player on a red spot is relegated, without the chance of a relegation match.
I feel that is also a reasonable consequence:
If there was a difference between removal and just placing last, a player could always make an “escape into removal” if the season does not go well:
Let’s say someone has played all their 5 matches and they are on last place (red spot) based on their results. In addition, they have already missed two video deadlines. If removal would mean one could stay in their division, a paradoxical situation would ensue:
If the player does upload video 5, they are relegated to the lower division. But if they do not upload video 5 (= if they break the rules), they are “only” removed and can stay in the league (= are rewarded). An absurd consequence.
By the way, for those div. 2 players worrying about a stronger player in their division: whichever subdivision has Matteo in it will have two green spots (direct advancement to div. 1) instead of one and also the usual yellow spot (relegation match between div. 1 and div. 2). That means from your perspective the strong player basically has no consequence, you will still be competing among yourselves for one green spot and one yellow spot as usual.
As a final note, checking videos and asking people to upload is quite a lot of work for the supervisor team, and not doing that disturbs the whole process and also creates a competitive imbalance in the division itself (which, I think, lead to quite some discontent in div. 1b). To my understanding, that it why the line is drawn at 3 missed video deadlines max.
I hope that perspectice was helpful. It would be great if officials like @Simon and @Hannes could chip in.
Fortunately this didnt impact the others standings. However, it was very possible for Yas to jump here had he won vs Enrico, then I go to 3rd and maybe that QF doesnt work out for me. That was probably my biggest win on ML and it really meant nothing because everyone else got it, besides Boris who also earned his win.
yes i didn’t think about this axpect, pardon. anyway i know that it’s not a good thing and that the best solution is always load all videos