Ha! that’ll teach me to read the entire thread before responding. It sounds like you’ve already worked out the value of context.
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@jambole0192 Ooh, thanks for the video, I’ll check it out. I really appreciate these posts.
I tried the straight interval trainers too, but they seemed hopelessly slow. But with the “in context” style, I was making noticeable (albeit slow) progress.
That’s not a problem, I guess the final one we haven’t talked about is around motor skills development and using consistent patterns (point 4 above). There are lots of these classes of movement that you can learn, but here’s me demonstrating how it accelerates learning (this was from about 5 years ago).
Does that make sense?
Steve
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O.M.G. 
. This applies to all the scales I’ve learned (which is basically C major in all the 5 positions). I didn’t know I could “chop up” the big chunky scale into 3NPS, or the patterns within 3NPS.
Wonderful! Now I can’t wait to play guitar tonight. 
Yes it’s powerful isn’t it? I think of them as being shape based Mnemonics, once you’ve seen the internal structure then you not so reliant on charts any longer.
If you’re using 5 position, are you working with the CAGED system? (based on 5 chords, or 5 pentatonic positions?). Well there’s a similar set of internal patterns for those 5 shapes too.
(This is a much longer play list…)
In this case the Pentatonic shapes distil into 2 internal patterns, then you can think of these as mental scaffolding which can be used to hang scales pretty much any scale on.
Anyway both systems are good, and as you develop they all merge into a general knowledge of the neck.
Thanks for the materials!
I’m working through “Guitar Fretboard Workbook”. Thus far, we’ve done octave shapes, scale construction and now playing D and C major scale based on each octave shape. I think this will all tie together with caged at some point, but at the moment, the whole book scaffolds all concepts off of 5 octave shapes.
The activity is to learn each scale pattern while saying the chord function. So I say “3,4,5,67, Root, 2,3,4,5,6,7,Root,2,3,4,5” while playing open C major.
I think once I finish this chapter (in a month or so) I’ll work through your 3NPS videos. 
I took up guitar about 5 months ago. One thing I’ve done is use simple mnemonics for the 3,5,7 frets on strings 5 and 6 and then from there you can find the notes on every other string if you know the patterns off those two strings.
I’ll take a look at the rest of the thread!
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I’ve stopped focusing on trying to know the notes, but instead trying to hear which scale degree I’m playing within a pattern. And for that reason I really like 3NPS because the patterns are so regular. Like earlier on I was saying out loud Root, 2, 3, …, 7, Root and I played scales hoping to learn. And it works kinda okay. But it’s less “cognitive load” to just know that I’m hearing and feeling the root note, etc.
I like guy’s presentation of the 3NPS. It’s just like what @jambole0192 showed but with some animations.
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Thanks, I do love learning patterns and the nature of things. I will give this method a go. Very logical. I think I still want to eventually know all the notes on the fretboard because that will give me more insight into the nature of the guitar, though.
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I hear you about wanting to know all the notes.
In terms of learning the notes, I found something that is working to know the notes on strings 6 and 5 with procedural memory (so it’s instant). I want to learn E and A shape bar chords so I practice like this:
- pick a chord progression like: I-vi-V-VI or I-IV-V
- pick the next key from circle of fifths (F,C,G,D,A,E,B,F#, Db, Ab, Eb, Bb)
- play the progression only with E and A shape bar chords saying each chord name as you play
- repeat laps as you cycle the CoF in order until 5 mins is up
It seems to be working.
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That’s a great video. I like his explanation for the meaning of life (42) in another video from that playlist.
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So I did it. I finally memorized the fretboard. I followed that Tomasso “hello internet” method plus using using flashcards. 5-10 min a day for a bunch of months.
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Good job.
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