I'm memorizing a 1000-page book word for word and I'm making progress

Hello.
Thank you for your illustration.so you mean like memorizing verbatim and using just one image for each page?it seems like a good idea but consider that maybe there are so many diffrent consepts in one page that aren’t connected.maybe it should be one image per consept.

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This is great. I’m curious what book it is that you’re memorizing? Often what we choose to memorize can be as interesting as the methods by which we memorize them.

I would caution giving methods new names like the “John Place method” as they’ve often got much older and more common terminology. “John Place” boils down to rote memorization or recitation with repetition. This is something almost everyone could use and is often the least efficient especially for long term retention for large amounts of data. Ancient Greek/Roman authors would have classified this method as recitatio while they thought of memoria verborum and memoria res as more powerful.

From what I can see, it looks like you’ve layered on a bit of spaced repetition and the mnemonic major system (images for numbers) along with some association principles. I suspect that you could add in some additional linking/peg methods along with the method of loci for easier memorization and better long term lifetime retention.

Most of the value of mnemotechniques is in decreasing the amount of upfront work while simultaneously increasing the time of retention.

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It would be kind of frustrating for me to close my eyes and keep on reading and then forget some of it the next day. But good for you! What you are doing is not that easy. :+1:

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I personally think that is unnecessary and you could expend your time with most useful things, but anyways… How are you progressing with verbal memorization? In how much minutes were you able to memorize one page initially and now, and how much pages were you able to memorize in the beginning and how much are you able now? I am interested on it because I heard there is a sort of “substance” (I am not good at technical neurochemistry terms) that can increase its speed in the brain from 3km/h to 300km/h. Something like that, and the more it is efficient, the more you are able to do certain activities better, and practice can help with it.

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“It is not necessary, and it is very difficult.”
For me, this phrase sounds very encouraging.
Many years ago I began to study languages, and twice I switched to another language because I wanted something more difficult (and certainly not necessary), and I do not regret at all.

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Separate concepts can be attached to parts of the body of an eagle) And, if you need to remember a new term. I create an image of meaning, an image of reading a term, and place it elsewhere. And when I remember a page or an abstract, I attach a sound image. When I see it, I will automatically remember its meaning. Of course, this system needs improvement, but I repeat, when we memorize texts, we have only two options: this system or mechanical memorization. And about the big images. Depending on the topic. If the page addresses two main topics. The main, large images will be two and so on. Although I myself am still in thought. It makes great sense to use in a large way a paragraph, regardless of topic.

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Thanks.
What do you mean by sound image?

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I am Russian-speaking, cause I could say not quite clearly. I meant the image that denotes the sound of the word. As taught by Dominic O`Brien. Die Gardine - guardian, etc. The word association that tells you the reading of a foreign word. I do the same in terms. Just to remember the meaning of the new term, you need two images. The image of sound and the image of meaning, therefore I transfer the meaning of the terms to another location so that they do not confuse the images of the text.

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Thanks

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I really keeping fingers crossed, I believe that memorizing text verbatim can be closed in some kind of system and after practice memorizing time should go up. I was experimenting with only two pages of Harry Potter and English is not mine first language. It was… slow. But efficient. In high school I had extreme problems with memorizing text verbatim. So realizing that I remembered it was big success for me. I was taking first letters of words from book. For example BL - bruce lee. And then putting it in memory palace. Sometimes when word was obvious to visualise like “tie”, “bag” i was putting this instead. So at first atempt I was memorizing string of letters, then I was putting main important images that was giving me clue about what sentence was.

How you doing with your memorization? Are you making some statistics how much you can memorize? Do you see improvement?

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Moving here to update the post. I gave up the book on the page before page 200, as the book ended up being out of date. It is a type of Brazilian law book and is constantly being updated, and the need to memorize it no longer exists. However, the method I mentioned is still effective, use in texts and works well. The repetition method was only used in law, which was to be memorized word by word and the rest by traditional images. I am developing a method of literal memorization, soon I will share with you

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Great! I’ll try something like that, for sure. I don’t know if you feel the same way, but when I’m on this forum, I feel that my mind has no limits, and a fantastic feeling.

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I never measured time. But I believe that in the beginning I used to take about 25 minutes and currently about 8 minutes

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Room for every page, interesting idea.

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