How many words can you learn per day?

Hello everyone, I’m a new member on this forum and as you can read from my profile, I really like learning foreign languages… I can speak italian (native speaker), a bit of english, spanish and japanese… Recently, I became interested on mnemonics technique because they can help you to study and memorize things more easily. I tried the keyword method to learn new foreign words and I have to say they work flawlessly… I was able to learn some vocab in few minutes… And here is my question, or I have to say “curiosity” ahah… How many words can you learn per day using mnemonic techniques? Do you use keyword method too? One week ago, I started to study korean (yeah, I really like oriental languages) and I noticed it has a very similar grammar to japanese, so I’m not worried about that… So I decided to improve my vocabulary quickly and then focus on grammar and reading. :slight_smile:

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As much as you want. It all depends on how effectively you use these mnemonics. And also on how you define “learning”.

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Well, at least to recognize the word’s meaning on the text :smiley: Well, I have read that someone has learnt 1000 vocab in 5 hours…

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That’s exciting.

Atm I’m learning 20 per day, I will try to start increasing the number gradually soon.
It is a language with noun gender so the mnemonics need to cover that too, I’m really happy with how it is going, currently using mnemonics without method of loci, and anki for review.

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I’m going to call bullsh** on this. I seriously doubt anyone could do 200-1000 words in 1 day let alone 1 hour… Even with advanced memory techniques. No offense but I would call anyone on it to see. I can barely do 30 a day now with full retention and total recall. Total recall meaning being able to hear it, see it written, write it yourself and understand all of the definitions and contexts of the word. Of course I’m talking about German.

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And of course being able to speak it with correct pronunciation.

I’m pretty sure you can learn your first 1,000 words of Spanish in a couple of hours; or a weekend if you prefer to take your time. It’s just a question of how you approach things.

Well, I’ve written about it before here…

Now, can you learn 1,000 words every single day? Probably not, but it would depend on the language pairs, too. French/Italian or Spanish/Portuguese you can probably go on for a day or two seeing how the lexical similarity between between each of these language pairs is about 90%.

How many words do you need anyways to start using native material to further study a language? 3,000? 5,000? Good enough, right? Unless it’s Toki Pono of course… then just over a hundred words will do.

Strange… German works a lot with affixes (prefixes mostly), so you could just learn that “to run” is “laufen” and then you add ab-laufen, aus-laufen, ent-laufen… ver-laufen, zer-laufen. There’s only a certain number of prefixes and not all of them work with every single verb stem, but that’ll easily put you past 30 a day… especially, since you’ll also have the corresponding nouns… der Lauf, der Ablauf, etc.

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I seriously doubt it. I have excellent memorization techniques and I can only memorize with 100% full retention the next day 30 - 45 words in a different language that I don’t already know. This is faster than the most cutting edge CIA total immersion techniques. Because to memorize the words is just part of it. After memorizing the words you must then use the words in sentences for the rest of the day to make the words stick.

100% full retention is:
Understanding the spoken word
Understanding and being able to read the word
Understanding and being able to write the word
Understanding and being able to speak the word

In all contexts and definitions.

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I’m experienced with memory palaces using numbers/cards but I’ve never tried words in general.

Learning deuTsch now and for the first time using palaces to memorize words and I’ve found I can do about 200 words in a half hour with my own system and weak associations (e.g durch = by: on a porch someone waving bye; wort = word: a warthog with spray painted words; or konnën = can, a cannon shooting cans) even with these weak associations it’s been fine on my same day recall.

Not sure if this is how you intended it to be used or if you have your own word/association methods you use @bjoern.gumboldt?

So most speed would come from practice of the word but if you aren’t wanting speed yet Then pretty much however fast you can be creative and how fast you can go through them. so if it takes you 15 seconds to form a picture of that word then another 5 seconds to truly imprint that on you then it would take around 20 seconds.