Erasing/Reusing memory palace

Great advice, thanks.

I don’t know if this thread is too old to revive, but I’m having a little bit of difficulty with this issue myself.

I’m practicing by memorizing decks of cards. I have two deck-sized rooms (17 images + 1 off-cycle space at the end for 51 + 1 cards). Every day I memorize a deck into one room, and then later in the day I memorize another into the other. I don’t always use the same room first, so as to keep them separate rather than contiguous.

What I find is that when I am struggling with an image, very often an old image, from the previous day or even before, will want to surface, and this slows me down. Sometimes it’s the location that triggers this, and sometimes it’s the first card of the three-card (PAO) sequence. So for example, I might get stuck because instead of 1H-2H-3H appearing on the dresser, it’s yesterday’s 4H-2S-8C, and alternatively I might get stuck in the same place because I’m pulling up an image from 2 days ago that went 1H-10D-8S. Thus far I haven’t gotten so stuck on this that I actually lose the thread completely, but it’s definitely slowing things up. I find that when this is starting to happen, I somehow know that what’s coming up is old, but I still have to make an effort to push it away to get the current version instead.

I wonder whether this is just something that will go away in time, or whether I need to develop a device for the purpose. I hate to create a new journey for this, because this is utterly short-term stuff, not long-term things that matter. It’s as much an exercise as anything, and I hate to waste time developing elaborate locations when I’m only going to use them for silly things like cards.

Honest opinion: take 40 minutes and create two new journies, so that you always have 48 hours between.

Will save you all the pain and probably less time than writing a few posts about it on here :slight_smile:

Job done!

What I do is I have about 10 memory palaces that I use and once I use all of them( might take 2-3 days) I start over using the 1st palace.

Periodically I exchange the old 10 memory palaces with 10 new ones and I use the same system.

Afterwards, go through, and burn the cards. See them burnt, destroyed, vaporised, and visualise the location empty and devoid afterwards. I go through and mentally destroy my objects in different ways when I want to reuse a space - this way, it “marks them” for deletion in my mind, and they don’t jump back out at me, because I’ve told my brain they’re irrelevant, and gone.

Hello, first post but have been somewhat lurking on the site for a while.
This is actually a somewhat easy problem to solve if you break down what your journey/memory palace is
Its an artificial memory, you place an object and/or person in a location and remember them just as if you remember putting a book on your desk or meeting a person on your front porch.
so how do you change a memory of a location for an object you have (in reality) placed?
You simply move it, or throw it out if you want to abolish it completely.
If its a person you simply imagine them leaving.
Then go back to where they were and see that location empty.

If that doesnt work, say you have a particularly stubborn “memory guest”
I’ve found that shoving all my unused items into my closet, much like when i was a kid cleaning my room is a great way to lose things…

Just remember all your journey is, is a memory you’ve imagined.
While you can imagine some far out scenes, they’re treated no different from ones you’ve encountered in reality in your head. deal with problems as such.

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Speaking from just my experience, and please feel free to argue - I think the Loci system is the best system for remembering things not required for long term memory storage.

It’s causal memory , the hooks are the same but the mental objects change - it’s great for speeches, decks of cards, appointments, shopping lists etc. by it’s very nature it needs to be erased and that’s why the best memory champions have created hundreds of memory palaces. Sooner or later those images will fade and the palace will be fresh and clean again.

I believe long term memory has more to do with associative memory techniques. For example how we learn languages.

If a memory palace is going to be used for long term memory it should be visited regularly to make the memories more solid. I have specific memory rooms for my credit cards and passport no. etc. that never change and are stuck in time, like a holiday that you once went on… which is incidentally what a I actually use:)

Ok technically I’m still new to memory palaces - I was introduced back in grade school and am now really focusing on it ----- , but…what I’m thinking, which could be an interesting thing to at least try…

Try setting “themes” for your journeys. So - at the beginning of the journey - say, the front door of your house - implement a categorie button similar to a theme park ride or something.

Then you could theoretically use the same journey but depending on the info you want - you change the theme.

Again - I haven’t tested this - but have been thinking about it a while for when it comes up.

Let me know if someone has tried this - or if it wouldn’t work at all.

Jake

rather than trying to reuse a memory palace, I search out more palaces which can be rather fun. I am visiting relatives. I just made 3 new palaces for future needs. no one else is around at the moment, so I used my smartphone to made short videos going around 3 rooms moving more slowly on the more distinctive items in the rooms.