Does Speed-reading Work?

No offense taken.

I wandered in on my first visit, saw the post - it was (I think) suggested by the site owner in a private email when I asked about productivity. IOW, I came with no agenda beyond checking out suggested links.

If all posts on this or other forums had to be based upon scientific proof then there would be very few posts and far fewer replies. LOL

But it is my personal experience that speedy reading can works. As it improve ugly reading and do help in creating reading habits. Using learning theory it helps in speedy reading.

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As I’ve said. Anecdotal evidence is of very little value when one is assessing the efficacy of systems advertised to help anyone to learn to read very quickly and maintain comprehension/retention levels.

Such programs imply that anyone can learn to do read incredibly quickly while maintaining comprehension/retention levels. There will always be ‘testimonials’ that this has indeed been achieved by individuals. I think I read somewhere of up to 4,000 WPM.

But again, no one claiming anything near such high reading speeds and retention/comprehension levels has ever come forward to prove they can do so under controlled conditions with a reputable researcher in a reputable lab. This begs the question: “why not?”

I think there is only one answer.

Respectfully, all I can share is my own personal experiences with RAPID READING.

Clearly, you will not benefit from this because you have (apparently) decided that without hard scientific evidence nothing has merit. That is, of course, your prerogative.

Hope I can get your approval to continue with my own success in this area of expertise.

Hey there, thanks for your comment, I really appreciate it.

So as you talk again about the EW instructions (and that you could quickly wrap them up) - would you mind posting them (again)? At least I couldn’t find it yet.
And if ye do it, I’d also be very interested in some facts around it like “how long you practiced to see result X”, “how much you still find that particular excercise useful”.

Thanks a lot in any case :wink:

I’d be up for recommendation :slight_smile:

Sorry.
Didn’t mean to mislead, but I don’t have another.

The post is cool, it was helpful… Thanks alot

Yes, what about him. It’s said that he reads 25000 words per minute.

That was so amazing. I’m really interested in SCANNING

So if we’re trying to be accurate, we might read at 300wpm, but the scanning could turn into a whopping 3000wpm, or even 30000 “wpm” (not really reading most of the words at that point). More like 30000skwpm (skipped words per minute)

the thing that helps, is just picking out a handful of words which “stick out” from a paragraph/page and coming up with some kind of a “theme” of what might be going on with those words

So you can just get a “theme” from a handful of words without really reading the book.

I guess you could say you’re not really “reading” the book, but “being inspired/moved by the stick-out words in the book”

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This is quite true. It would be an unreasonable overhead and kill most discussions. We talk about memory methods here and rarely offer more than personal experience.

But @Celtic is right, IMO. He could have been nicer about it but right is right.

The difference is that you have made a very big claim and it strains credulity. Big claims require strong evidence. I don’t for a moment think you are making it up but I have to wonder if someone else might report your results differently. I read a lot and fast - from my personal experience, and observing other readers that I know, I find your claims extraordinary.

Does that mean it’s possible someone will run a mile in under 1min?

Just because we didn’t judge the cutoff exactly right doesn’t mean there isn’t one.

I found a course called readspeeder. It’s a free speed-reading crash course that doesn’t sell you the 10,000+ wpm in a week crap. It says you can double or triple your reading abilities in about 2 weeks.

I just found it. I’ll give you my reviews once I finished it. So you guys in 2 weeks. :smile:

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I would like to give my opinion on this.

I started about 2 months ago to get interested in speed reading.

From time to time I have found that it is not really about learning specific techniques, but just unlearning slow reading.

It is possible to get up to about (like me) 600-800 WPM for books of normal difficulty.

However, it depends on several factors:

  • emotional factor at the time
  • personal knowledge of the subject matter

I would like to give some advice:

  • Use a pointer to scroll through the words
  • subvocalization (THAT MENTAL) is normal.
  • Listen to youtube videos at 1.5x / 2x so your brain gets used to being fast
  • for the rest, it’s all about training

What I think is that speed reading is possible up 400 - 800 WPM, depending on the difficulty of the reading.

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IMO that range is realistic, depending on the material. Beyond that, one is skimming.

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Yes. That’s absolutely possible. In fact, I believe you can go to about 1000 wpm and keep an amazing comprehension level, but that of course is going to take months.

Here’s my story (hopefully you’ll get something from this).
Speed-reading piqued my interest about 3 months ago. I’d watch all types of youtube videos, and read dozens of books about the topic.

After some time (within a couple of weeks), my wpm went up to about 600 wpm for a normal novel-type book. If the book was a heavy textbook required for my college, I’d read at about 400 wpm.

My wpm didn’t go up for a long time. It was stuck in the 600-wpm range for a couple of weeks. After studying, I realized my problem.

My subvocalization still existed. I know you’ll never be able to get rid of the damn thing, but I found a way to use it to my advantage.

Since you’re on this forum, I’m pretty sure you’ve heard about the mind palace. That’s what I use when reading.

When reading text, I memorize the entire book, not word for word, but for event by event. I transform the book into a movie and memorize that.

For example, when I read/hear: he ran to the store, I actually visualize a man running to the store. Because when we read the text, we go through 4 phases.

  1. Actually reading the text.
  2. Understand each word individually.
  3. Understand the final sentence.
  4. Understand the sentence with the context of the book.

But when you visualize the words, here’s what happens.

  1. Actually read the words.
  2. Visualize the words.

My memory isn’t perfect. I do forget a ton of stuff, but for the majority, I do remember most of everything.

The mind palace I use is the setting for each book. For example, I’m currently reading the entire Sherlock Holmes collection and the mind palace I’m using for those books is 221b baker street, his flat (British for an apartment), or his lab, whatever.

Unfortunately, there aren’t any good books or youtube videos out there that talk about this method, so it’s really just a try-fail method.

Anyway, best of luck to you!

Wow! Sounds amazing, I have to experiment with this method.
Hope it will work some day

As long as I’ve been familiar with mnemonics, the topic of speed-reading has come up all the time. Tried to try it, but it didn’t catch on + went on holiday.

What can I say, I haven’t seen a single working example yet, only an illusion of effectiveness. Maybe it’s self-deception? :confused:

In any case, when mastering mnemonics, I came to the idea that faster than 0.1s you can not create a thought, connection. There is no super-fast reading. Yes, I can read legal documents quickly because I’m associated with it and understand how they’re structured. Lots of long wording that you can ignore and keep the main point of the document.
Fiction or some books up to 300 pages I read in 1-2 evenings. But I haven’t had any reading training.

The thesis: the more one reads a certain type of literature, the better and “faster” one will read it in the future, the more one will understand it. It is very well seen in academic texts.

Lately I’ve been thinking about speed reading because of another advertisement. New inferences (or old ones) have emerged:

  1. they want to earn your $, like many “mnemonists”
    1.2 Know the simplest methods
    1.3 have no system
    1.4 They sell it as a miracle course
    1.4.1 The result is a waste of time 2.
    1.4.2 Money
    There are no easy ways in life. 2.
    People are trying to find a freebie! But they get low-quality information, which is not much help.

My conclusion is that when there is a mnemonic, then speed reading is not necessary. Reading comes with practice. Lots of pseudo-results, trying to make money off the subject.
If I am shown a real example and course that will really help.
I might try it out of curiosity.

I read a lot of books and don’t feel discomfort. Yes, I read books of 500-800 pages for months because I have little time, but 10-20 pages a day is the basis. If I sit down at once, I read it in a couple of days, a week. I get the hang of it.

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