# Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs challenge **URL:** \ **Category:** Memory Challenges\ **Tags:** examples\ **Created:** [July 28, 2021, 3:55pm UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/snow-white-and-the-seven-dwarfs-challenge/65527 "2021-07-28T15:55:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![thinkaboutthebible](https://forum.artofmemory.com/user_avatar/forum.artofmemory.com/thinkaboutthebible/32/12986_2.png) [@thinkaboutthebible](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/thinkaboutthebible)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2021, 3:55pm UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/snow-white-and-the-seven-dwarfs-challenge/65527/1 "2021-07-28T15:55:33Z")
I was compiling different examples of subject pegs, or lists of people who have an order to them and didn’t find much about one of the great trivia questions of all time, the names of the seven dwarfs. Not even anything here on the forum. It’s time to change that. The common mnemonic is 2 D’s, 2 S’s and three emotions. That’s lame. I think a better way would be to use a relevant phrase using the initial consonant of each of the dwarfs following the Major system consonant sound groupings. > Snow (2) White (2) (once 1) Cleaned Beautifully (2). (But now she’s married to the Prince.) In other words, there are two S’s, two D/T’s, one G/K, and 2 B/P’s. I’d like to see if anyone else can come up with any other good mnemonics. Here’s the list of the dwarfs if you’d like to take me up on the challenge: | # | Dwarf | Description | | --- | --- | --- | | 020 | Sneezy | He has powerful sneezes from his hay fever capable of blowing even the heaviest of objects across a room. | | 059 | Sleepy | He is always tired and appears lethargic in most situations. | | 17 | Doc | The leader of the seven dwarfs who wears glasses and often mixes up his words. | | 19 | Dopey | The only dwarf who does not have a beard and is accident-prone. He does not speak and Happy explains that he has never tried. | | 749 | Grumpy | He has the biggest nose of the dwarfs and is frequently seen with one eye shut. | | 9 | Happy | The jovial dwarf and is usually portrayed laughing. | | 9685 | Bashful | He is very shy, kind-hearted, cute, has a rosy blushed face and a small shy smile. | ---
**Author:** ![Mayarra](https://forum.artofmemory.com/user_avatar/forum.artofmemory.com/mayarra/32/13875_2.png) [@Mayarra](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/Mayarra)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 1:54pm UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/snow-white-and-the-seven-dwarfs-challenge/65527/2 "2021-07-29T13:54:55Z")
The two first ideas that come to me are a mnemonic sentence and a story. For the names, we have S S D D G H B GHB to me is already an easy bit, being a drug we regularly see at events. The first I come up with is Sally Sells Drugs, Definitly GHB. A few repetitions will then let me have the names pretty easily. As for a story… A **Doc** tor crawls out of bed, still **sleepy**. He makes his coffee but in his **dopey** state, he forgot to turn the machine on. He smells it and ends up with coffee in his nose, making him **sneezy**. When he eventually had his coffee, his **grumpy** mood changed to **happy**. When his wife said the coffee tasted great, he became a bit **bashful**. Not the best ones probably, but they serve the purpose of showing how I would try it I guess! ---
**Author:** ![thinkaboutthebible](https://forum.artofmemory.com/user_avatar/forum.artofmemory.com/thinkaboutthebible/32/12986_2.png) [@thinkaboutthebible](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/thinkaboutthebible)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 8:32pm UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/snow-white-and-the-seven-dwarfs-challenge/65527/3 "2021-07-31T20:32:28Z")
Well, @Mayarra I think your story is the best so far. Thanks for playing! ---
**Author:** ![Niten](https://forum.artofmemory.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Niten](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/Niten)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 11:33pm UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/snow-white-and-the-seven-dwarfs-challenge/65527/4 "2021-07-31T23:33:32Z")
The story way is how it would do it, although my story would be far more nonsensical than yours ---
**Author:** ![tarnation](https://forum.artofmemory.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@tarnation](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/tarnation)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2021, 1:22am UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/snow-white-and-the-seven-dwarfs-challenge/65527/5 "2021-08-01T01:22:57Z")
Yesterday I woke up from a deep SLEEP And started SNEEZING uncontrollably It was so bad, I drove to the DOCtor. You wont believe what HAPPened next. He prescribed medicine that made me sick. I became so DOPEY and GRUMPY That I BASHed my car into a telephone pole. I lay a coma for many years until one day a beautiful princess showed up and kissed me. Then I woke up, we got married and lived HAPPily ever after. ---
**Author:** ![thinkaboutthebible](https://forum.artofmemory.com/user_avatar/forum.artofmemory.com/thinkaboutthebible/32/12986_2.png) [@thinkaboutthebible](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/thinkaboutthebible)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2021, 1:45am UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/snow-white-and-the-seven-dwarfs-challenge/65527/6 "2021-08-01T01:45:08Z")
Oh come on @Niten, I’d love to have another weird story to work with! I’m going to have a little fun with them in a little while. ---
**Author:** ![tarnation](https://forum.artofmemory.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@tarnation](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/tarnation)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2021, 8:14pm UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/snow-white-and-the-seven-dwarfs-challenge/65527/7 "2021-08-01T20:14:02Z")
If you prefer a different approach: **S** even **S** illy **D** o **D** o’s with **G** oofy **B** aggy **H** ats ---
**Author:** ![tarnation](https://forum.artofmemory.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@tarnation](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/tarnation)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2021, 8:59pm UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/snow-white-and-the-seven-dwarfs-challenge/65527/8 "2021-08-01T20:59:58Z")
Please help me, I’m out of control: 1. Grumpy Monday 2. Dentist appointment: Doc Tooth-day 3. Bashful Wedding Day 4. Dopey & Thirsty 5. Happy Friday 6. Sleepy Saturdayzzz 7. Suh-suh-suh-neezy Sunday 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![thinkaboutthebible](https://forum.artofmemory.com/user_avatar/forum.artofmemory.com/thinkaboutthebible/32/12986_2.png) [@thinkaboutthebible](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/thinkaboutthebible)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2021, 10:42pm UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/snow-white-and-the-seven-dwarfs-challenge/65527/9 "2021-08-01T22:42:16Z")
@tarnation, this delights me! I’ll use this in the next fun part of the challenge. ---
**Author:** ![thinkaboutthebible](https://forum.artofmemory.com/user_avatar/forum.artofmemory.com/thinkaboutthebible/32/12986_2.png) [@thinkaboutthebible](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/thinkaboutthebible)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2021, 3:22am UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/snow-white-and-the-seven-dwarfs-challenge/65527/10 "2021-08-02T03:22:26Z")
Well, here’s a little preview of where I’d like to end up with this challenge. I want to create the most compact, terse memory image that contains all of the dwarfs. @Mayarra used five different images in a story and @tarnation used six and seven. My goal is **one memory image** that has an association to each of the full dwarf names. It’s a good challenge I think and possible since I was able to create one already. If anyone would like to contribute a story with any number of visual images, it will help to make it more fun. I’ll wait a few more days before I work it out. ---
**Author:** ![tarnation](https://forum.artofmemory.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@tarnation](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/tarnation)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2021, 11:19am UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/snow-white-and-the-seven-dwarfs-challenge/65527/11 "2021-08-02T11:19:18Z")
One image? Hmmm. A shy bipolar doctor with serious allergies self-prescribes sleeping pills and gets addicted. ---
**Author:** ![thinkaboutthebible](https://forum.artofmemory.com/user_avatar/forum.artofmemory.com/thinkaboutthebible/32/12986_2.png) [@thinkaboutthebible](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/thinkaboutthebible)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2021, 4:38pm UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/snow-white-and-the-seven-dwarfs-challenge/65527/12 "2021-08-02T16:38:11Z")
That’s one image for sure. I’m assuming bipolar is grumpy and happy but then Doc is also shy and sneezing. That’s almost cheating 😉 . Why couldn’t Doc be sleepy and dopey as well? You’ve got the PAO (subject, action, item) of a good image there and enhanced the subject a lot. Can you only use one subject enhancement and use the other useful data type of a location (terrain in my SEA-IT acronym)? You can also enhance the action, the item and the location for extra “loci” in your image. I have a fascination with your visualization imagination @tarnation. ---
**Author:** ![tarnation](https://forum.artofmemory.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@tarnation](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/tarnation)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2021, 6:11pm UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/snow-white-and-the-seven-dwarfs-challenge/65527/13 "2021-08-02T18:11:33Z")
> [@thinkaboutthebible](#): > > That’s almost cheating 😉 Almost cheating? No problem. I’ll try harder. ;D > [@thinkaboutthebible](#): > > Why couldn’t Doc be sleepy and dopey as well? I think by the time I was done with him, he was. 😃 > [@thinkaboutthebible](#): > > Can you only use one subject enhancement and use the other useful data type of a location (terrain in my SEA-IT acronym)? You can also enhance the action, the item and the location for extra “loci” in your image. You’re tough. Okay, I’ll give it a try, but you might have to guide me a bit. Here’s what I came up with next. I hope you can be patient with my sense of the absurd: (It’s a news item): Complaint raised alleging late night emergency room staff laughingly refused to provide medication to virgin stoner demanding treatment for allergy to opposite sex. > [@thinkaboutthebible](#): > > I have a fascination with your visualization imagination @tarnation. It pleases me to here that someone is fascinated by my imagination. My family, friends and coworkers sure aren’t. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![tarnation](https://forum.artofmemory.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@tarnation](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/tarnation)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2021, 6:51pm UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/snow-white-and-the-seven-dwarfs-challenge/65527/14 "2021-08-02T18:51:12Z")
Not sure if I got the requirements correct. Not even sure if anybody but me would agree my story (or headline) was a mnemonic. The clues are all there, but laid out in a very oblique way. ---
**Author:** ![thinkaboutthebible](https://forum.artofmemory.com/user_avatar/forum.artofmemory.com/thinkaboutthebible/32/12986_2.png) [@thinkaboutthebible](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/thinkaboutthebible)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2021, 7:24pm UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/snow-white-and-the-seven-dwarfs-challenge/65527/15 "2021-08-02T19:24:57Z")
@tarnation, they’re supposed to be personal so that’s OK. Grumpy, Sleepy, Doc, Happy, Bashful, Dopey, Sneezy. Right? Those other people don’t know what they’re missing. Impress them with your knowledge of the dwarfs. Or maybe not. ---
**Author:** ![tarnation](https://forum.artofmemory.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@tarnation](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/tarnation)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2021, 7:30pm UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/snow-white-and-the-seven-dwarfs-challenge/65527/16 "2021-08-02T19:30:22Z")
> [@thinkaboutthebible](#): > > Or maybe not. LOL! ---
**Author:** ![thinkaboutthebible](https://forum.artofmemory.com/user_avatar/forum.artofmemory.com/thinkaboutthebible/32/12986_2.png) [@thinkaboutthebible](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/thinkaboutthebible)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2021, 8:32pm UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/snow-white-and-the-seven-dwarfs-challenge/65527/17 "2021-08-02T20:32:18Z")
@tarnation, I’ll go ahead and do the next part with you. You seem to be ready for more! I use five different data types (SEA-IT) for visualization in one memory image. Here’s the layout: | Subject | Action | Item | Terrain | | --- | --- | --- | --- | | enhancement | enhancement | enhancement | enhancement | So far the options for any of the dwarfs all combined so far that you and @Mayarra have come up with are: | doctor | sleep, sneeze, bashed a car, happen, prescribes pills | doctor | - | | --- | --- | --- | --- | | happy, sleepy, dopey, grumpy, sneezy, allergic, bashful, shy, bipolar | grumpily, for sneezing, for sleeping | happy, sleepy, dopey, grumpy, sneezy, allergic, bashful, shy, bipolar | - | You need one from almost each cell of that table to make a good image otherwise you’ll be doubling up enhancements, items or other things that weaken the image. ## The conversion challenge When a data type is converted to another data type it provides a way to create a better visual sentence in that it uses an association that makes a good visual sentence. In programming, the conversion of a value from one data type to another is called casting, but I prefer the word conversion for doing this. Programming also uses the word statement for a complete parsable “sentence.” So much for theory. Here’s an example for one of the dwarfs: | Adam Sandler in _Happy Gilmore_, a clown | smile, jump up and down a little | bright flowers, photos of good times or people, a favorite pet | Disneyland (the happiest place on Earth) | | --- | --- | --- | --- | | _holding a hockey stick as a golf club, wearing clown shoes, happily_ | _giggling_ | _happily, fresh and clean, nostalgic_ | _with people dancing down the Main Street._ | Like you said, these are clues, and the stronger the association is to the original data type, the better. The target here is [Miller’s Law of Seven](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Magical_Number_Seven,_Plus_or_Minus_Two) so that between five to nine pieces of data are combined into one visual sentence. With eight different types of data that could be combined, the task would be to find a unique combination of all seven so that it made narrative sense in one visual sentence. The complete analysis for the best picture would mean that we do a full conversion into all of the data types for all of the dwarfs. But if you get the idea, you probably can work it out for what you need. I like having lots of options. I did Happy. Why don’t you pick another dwarf and do the conversion for him? But if you do Doc, you’ll have to do another one as well, because he’s pretty easy. It takes a good imagination for this but I think you’ll do fine. If you have any questions, let me know. ---
**Author:** ![tarnation](https://forum.artofmemory.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@tarnation](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/tarnation)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2021, 10:52pm UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/snow-white-and-the-seven-dwarfs-challenge/65527/18 "2021-08-02T22:52:05Z")
Is it supposed to just be one single sentence? If so, I need more practice. Anyway, this is what I came up with this time:: The earth thumped rhythmically as the eight-metallic limbs carried the small body aloft up the side of the mountain—up, up to the high ledge where it ripped the huge oak doors off their hinges, leaving a gaping hole. The entrance to the mine was dark and seemed abandoned. Doc examined the situation closely, watching and listening patiently, until—ACHOO!! “Gotcha!”, he cried with glee as one prehensile tentacle thrust into the void of the mineshaft, the violently yanked out his tiny former coworker. “Come out, come out”, he taunted, “Don’t be shy. I’m the bashful one”, as he smashed his unfortunate former friend against the mountainside wall, diamonds pouring out of his ruptured sack. ---
**Author:** ![thinkaboutthebible](https://forum.artofmemory.com/user_avatar/forum.artofmemory.com/thinkaboutthebible/32/12986_2.png) [@thinkaboutthebible](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/thinkaboutthebible)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2021, 11:55pm UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/snow-white-and-the-seven-dwarfs-challenge/65527/19 "2021-08-02T23:55:36Z")
Ah, yes, it would easily be put into one sentence after we’re done with this. But that’s why we’re doing the dwarf data type warm-up. So I did Happy for you. Each cell represents some form of Happy, either as a subject, action, item, or terrain each with a happy enhancement that when you see it in your memory image, you know it’s Happy. But you only need one in your final image. But you have eight choices to use in your final image for all the dwarfs. If you use the terrain of Happy like I did in my final version, which is Disneyland, then the other dwarfs, can be represented by a subject, action, item or enhancements as you choose. I also chose to use Doc as my subject. Here’s a full breakdown of Doc in data types for another example: | a doctor, a veterinarian | prescribing medicine for, giving pills to | a patient, a sick person | hospital, clinic | | --- | --- | --- | --- | | wearing white with a stethoscope | writing illegibly | coughing, in a coma, bleeding, in pain | white walls and tile floors, halogen lights | In my final image, I used the doctor from the **subject** for Doc and Disneyland from the **terrain** for Happy so he could be a clinic doctor taking care (temporary action) of Snow White (temporary item) at a storefront on Main Street. Now I just have to find good options for the other dwarfs from the remaining data types. Which dwarf do you want to try next? Grumpy, Sleepy, Dopey, Bashful, or Sneezy? ---
**Author:** ![tarnation](https://forum.artofmemory.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@tarnation](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/tarnation)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2021, 2:08am UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/snow-white-and-the-seven-dwarfs-challenge/65527/20 "2021-08-03T02:08:05Z")
I’ll try Dopey. In my younger days, dope referred to recreational drugs, but I played with that theme enough already. This time, I will stick with the traditional (uh, Disney) image where he seems a bit mentally backwards compared to his companions. **Subject** : Dopey, backwards, childlike | baby-face, no beard, clumsy, awkward **Actions** : Making silly mistakes | drops things, trips himself, bumps, gets bumped **Items** : Objects, Companions| mishandles objects, mildly annoys companions **Location** : in company of companions | Always out of step, or last in of a line (Locations is mostly important relative to others, not to any specific setting) _[Aside: Looks like you know a way to make a table in the reply edit spacing How do you do that?]_ [Next page](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/snow-white-and-the-seven-dwarfs-challenge/65527.md?page=2)