# Review: Advanced Memory Palaces by Joe Reddington

**URL:** https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/review-advanced-memory-palaces-by-joe-reddington/76032
**Category:** General Memory Chat
**Created:** [August 18, 2022, 9:42pm UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/review-advanced-memory-palaces-by-joe-reddington/76032 "2022-08-18T21:42:39Z")
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### Author: ![GettingOld](https://forum.artofmemory.com/user_avatar/forum.artofmemory.com/gettingold/32/11003_2.png) [@GettingOld](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/GettingOld)
#### Post date: [April 23, 2023, 8:13pm UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/review-advanced-memory-palaces-by-joe-reddington/76032/47 "2023-04-23T20:13:10Z")

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Just finished the book today and it was an interesting read for sure. For me personally, it was a bit too complicated, but I appreciate all the hard work that went into this book. I will have to re-read it a couple of times and then maybe classes and trees will make more sense, and it will be more practical for me to use. I got both this book and The Chess memory palace even though I don’t play Chess anymore I was curious how the author solved a chess problem that I couldn’t solve a year ago. Furthermore, I applaud writers that take the time to write about the memory techniques and try to enlighten us with new ways to do things differently. And indeed this book is not suitable as an introduction into the art of memorization, but there are many books already on that subject, so this is a welcome addition to my collection of books on this subject.

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### Author: ![joereddington](https://forum.artofmemory.com/user_avatar/forum.artofmemory.com/joereddington/32/16073_2.png) [@joereddington](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/joereddington)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2023, 5:42am UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/review-advanced-memory-palaces-by-joe-reddington/76032/48 "2023-06-11T05:42:48Z")

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I found a typo in the book a couple of days ago (there are few things more annoying than finding a typo in your own book) and have uploaded an updated manuscript to Amazon (one of the nice things about print-on-demand is that I don’t have to wait for another complete run).

If anyone contacts me with any (new) typos, I will of course put you in the acknowledgements section as soon as I fix them. I don’t think anyone would want a [Knuth reward check - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knuth_reward_check) from me 😀

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### Author: ![Ronc](https://forum.artofmemory.com/user_avatar/forum.artofmemory.com/ronc/32/17842_2.png) [@Ronc](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/Ronc)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2023, 5:16am UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/review-advanced-memory-palaces-by-joe-reddington/76032/49 "2023-07-15T05:16:09Z")

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I just ordered my copy after hearing Joe on the Craft of Memory podcast. I took a few computer science electives in college and I felt like a benefited from applying these lessons to my other studies. So naturally I was excited to hear about this book. I’m looking forward to learn more from this book and explore the applications for mnemonics.

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### Author: ![joereddington](https://forum.artofmemory.com/user_avatar/forum.artofmemory.com/joereddington/32/16073_2.png) [@joereddington](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/joereddington)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2023, 2:52pm UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/review-advanced-memory-palaces-by-joe-reddington/76032/50 "2023-07-18T14:52:41Z")

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Hello! I’ve just uploaded a new version that fixed a couple more small typos (Than you to @JohnDen, who is now also in the acknowledgements section). Thank you 🙂

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### Author: ![tusharvjoshi](https://forum.artofmemory.com/user_avatar/forum.artofmemory.com/tusharvjoshi/32/16114_2.png) [@tusharvjoshi](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/tusharvjoshi)
#### Post date: [August 6, 2023, 10:40am UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/review-advanced-memory-palaces-by-joe-reddington/76032/51 "2023-08-06T10:40:25Z")

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This discussion has increased my interest in this book. Unfortunately, it is too expensive on the [Amazon India](https://www.amazon.in/Advanced-Memory-Palaces-second-should/dp/B09GJFZ6JM/ref=sr_1_1?tag=artofmemory-20) site (₹1455) and not even available on [Audible India](https://www.audible.in/)

It looks like I will have to wait for some years to read this book. 🙁

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### Author: ![Liam](https://forum.artofmemory.com/user_avatar/forum.artofmemory.com/liam/32/5903_2.png) [@Liam](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/Liam)
#### Post date: [August 6, 2023, 1:34pm UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/review-advanced-memory-palaces-by-joe-reddington/76032/52 "2023-08-06T13:34:16Z")

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> [@thinkaboutthebible](#):
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> Skip lists was a new concept for me that I plan on implementing by using a second list of associated items. It’s an abbreviated list of every nth item. A bestiary could be constructed from every fifth item

I do this by numbering my rooms, and every room having 5 items… I also have a list of every fifth room.

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### Author: ![joereddington](https://forum.artofmemory.com/user_avatar/forum.artofmemory.com/joereddington/32/16073_2.png) [@joereddington](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/joereddington)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2023, 7:30am UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/review-advanced-memory-palaces-by-joe-reddington/76032/53 "2023-08-12T07:30:09Z")

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> [@tusharvjoshi](#):
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> This discussion has increased my interest in this book. Unfortunately, it is too expensive on the [Amazon India](https://www.amazon.in/Advanced-Memory-Palaces-second-should/dp/B09GJFZ6JM/ref=sr_1_1?tag=artofmemory-20) site (₹1455) and not even available on [Audible India](https://www.audible.in/)
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> It looks like I will have to wait for some years to read this book. 🙁

So when I read this I was like, “Well, it seems reasonable to offer the book more cheaply on Amazon.in compared to say the U.S or U.K” but when I logged on change the pricing, I found that I don’t appear to have published on kdp India (although kdp does exist for India) and can’t work out how to. Also ₹1,455.00 turns out to be about double the price for the UK so I suspect some third party is buying copies in another country (or expecting to) and then shipping them over at a profit.

I’ll look into this some more. I sort of assumed that I’d published for everywhere that kdp supported, but clearly it’s more complex than that.

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### Author: ![thinkaboutthebible](https://forum.artofmemory.com/user_avatar/forum.artofmemory.com/thinkaboutthebible/32/12986_2.png) [@thinkaboutthebible](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/thinkaboutthebible)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2023, 12:49pm UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/review-advanced-memory-palaces-by-joe-reddington/76032/54 "2023-08-12T12:49:22Z")

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@joereddington, It’s a good idea to offer a Kindle version as a low-cost option so that it’s more affordable. I did that for my books. If you need help, I can guide you through the basics if you want. It’s not too hard. When I shipped a printed book to Australia, I noticed that it was published in Germany and sent over which is what probably is happening with a book purchased in India.

Doug

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### Author: ![joereddington](https://forum.artofmemory.com/user_avatar/forum.artofmemory.com/joereddington/32/16073_2.png) [@joereddington](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/joereddington)
#### Post date: [August 17, 2023, 7:09pm UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/review-advanced-memory-palaces-by-joe-reddington/76032/55 "2023-08-17T19:09:29Z")

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That’s a lovely offer - I’d happily nerd out over the format’s ins and outs. I think I mentioned somewhere in the thread that I run [https://whitewaterwriters.com/](https://whitewaterwriters.com/), so we regularly put out Kindle novels, but they are a different beast. My reluctance to put up a kindle version come from a few places - including a general unhappiness with how the ebook format treats all technical work but I’m always happy to re-examine.

FWIW, talking this over with my partner gave me some ideas about ebooks in general, and some other work I have that might work, which is quite exciting 🙂

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### Author: ![joereddington](https://forum.artofmemory.com/user_avatar/forum.artofmemory.com/joereddington/32/16073_2.png) [@joereddington](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/joereddington)
#### Post date: [August 19, 2023, 6:36am UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/review-advanced-memory-palaces-by-joe-reddington/76032/56 "2023-08-19T06:36:54Z")

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> [@Liam](#):
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> I do this by numbering my rooms, and every room having 5 items… I also have a list of every fifth room.

Just as a point of clarification, the way I presented skip lists is as part of ‘non-indexed’ data-structures: the advantages don’t really show up when used with method of loci or numbered items.

in general, I’m in favour of everything in the quote, I just wanted to clarify that it’s not really the thing I was trying to get across in the book. 😊

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### Author: ![Liam](https://forum.artofmemory.com/user_avatar/forum.artofmemory.com/liam/32/5903_2.png) [@Liam](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/Liam)
#### Post date: [August 19, 2023, 9:58am UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/review-advanced-memory-palaces-by-joe-reddington/76032/57 "2023-08-19T09:58:42Z")

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Interesting. I will try to go deeper into this. It seems I’m missing something.

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### Author: ![Adityaj](https://forum.artofmemory.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/b5a626/32.png) [@Adityaj](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/Adityaj)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2023, 7:14am UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/review-advanced-memory-palaces-by-joe-reddington/76032/58 "2023-08-27T07:14:35Z")

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Thank you. Out of desperation, i tried to understand from your interview on Craft of Memory. I liked it and whetted my interest.

Unfortunately the price in India is 4-5x of a book. An e-book will be really useful.

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### Author: ![Hari-P](https://forum.artofmemory.com/user_avatar/forum.artofmemory.com/hari-p/32/20048_2.png) [@Hari-P](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/Hari-P)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2023, 12:10pm UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/review-advanced-memory-palaces-by-joe-reddington/76032/59 "2023-08-30T12:10:05Z")

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The price has gone down for me, but the book isn’t in stock to buy it.  
I really don’t understand how amazon is working.  
It doesn’t matter, I can wait. Patience brings a lot of books my way.

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### Author: ![joereddington](https://forum.artofmemory.com/user_avatar/forum.artofmemory.com/joereddington/32/16073_2.png) [@joereddington](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/joereddington)
#### Post date: [September 21, 2023, 1:03pm UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/review-advanced-memory-palaces-by-joe-reddington/76032/60 "2023-09-21T13:03:36Z")

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I’ve been working in the background to solve some of the kdp formatting issues and I’m making reasonable progress. I’ve got a ebook I want to publish before Christmas (also about memory) and if that ebook works out then I’ll probably start properly converting (although there’s a strong argument I’d be better to invest the time in an expanded and updated version of the original book…)

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### Author: ![Readerly](https://forum.artofmemory.com/user_avatar/forum.artofmemory.com/readerly/32/7101_2.png) [@Readerly](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/Readerly)
#### Post date: [September 21, 2023, 1:09pm UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/review-advanced-memory-palaces-by-joe-reddington/76032/61 "2023-09-21T13:09:07Z")

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> [@joereddington](#):
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> I’ve got a ebook I want to publish before Christmas (also about memory) and if that ebook works out then I’ll probably start properly converting (although there’s a strong argument I’d be better to invest the time in an expanded and updated version of the original book…)

Nice. If you’re willing to share, what will your second memory book me about? Also, if you’re planning on updating the first book, what kind of stuff do you want to update and add for the second version?

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### Author: ![joereddington](https://forum.artofmemory.com/user_avatar/forum.artofmemory.com/joereddington/32/16073_2.png) [@joereddington](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/joereddington)
#### Post date: [September 27, 2023, 11:06am UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/review-advanced-memory-palaces-by-joe-reddington/76032/62 "2023-09-27T11:06:27Z")

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> [@Readerly](#):
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> Nice. If you’re willing to share, what will your second memory book me about?

It’s a small ebook on memorising physics constants. It’s not for advanced users and is far less ambitious then Advanced Memory Palaces, but it will work for a small audience 🙂

> [@Readerly](#):
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> Also, if you’re planning on updating the first book, what kind of stuff do you want to update and add for the second version?

Broadly - anything that people ask me for: the joy of a second edition is that you can respond to all the feedback one gets in the first. There’s a list of things I’d like to make clearer and I think at least one chapter I’d like to bring back from deletion, but I’m open to ideas 🙂

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### Author: ![joereddington](https://forum.artofmemory.com/user_avatar/forum.artofmemory.com/joereddington/32/16073_2.png) [@joereddington](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/joereddington)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2023, 6:00pm UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/review-advanced-memory-palaces-by-joe-reddington/76032/63 "2023-12-12T18:00:16Z")

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> [@joereddington](#):
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> I’ve been working in the background to solve some of the kdp formatting issues and I’m making reasonable progress. I’ve got a ebook I want to publish before Christmas (also about memory) and if that ebook works out then I’ll probably start properly converting (although there’s a strong argument I’d be better to invest the time in an expanded and updated version of the original book…)

Some of you will be pleased to hear - over the last month I’ve solved enough of the typesetting issues that I’ve been able to successfully create the Kindle version of Advanced Memory Palaces. It’s having a final read-through but I expect to be making it live over the next week.

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### Author: ![Hari-P](https://forum.artofmemory.com/user_avatar/forum.artofmemory.com/hari-p/32/20048_2.png) [@Hari-P](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/Hari-P)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2023, 9:17pm UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/review-advanced-memory-palaces-by-joe-reddington/76032/64 "2023-12-12T21:17:02Z")

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Christmas gift! 🥳

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### Author: ![joereddington](https://forum.artofmemory.com/user_avatar/forum.artofmemory.com/joereddington/32/16073_2.png) [@joereddington](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/joereddington)
#### Post date: [December 13, 2023, 6:12pm UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/review-advanced-memory-palaces-by-joe-reddington/76032/65 "2023-12-13T18:12:01Z")

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> [@joereddington](#):
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> It’s having a final read-through but I expect to be making it live over the next week.

It’s live now. Thank you to everybody for your encouragement.

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#### Post date: [December 13, 2023, 6:53pm UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/review-advanced-memory-palaces-by-joe-reddington/76032/66 "2023-12-13T18:53:04Z")

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Got it, looking forward to trying the ideas out in practice.

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