Miniature memory palaces - including your palm

I’m telling the instructor!

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Sorry for the late reply, Liam.

My index finger is orange. I mentally poke it into an orange, pushing through the skin to the wet fleshy interior. I smell the burst of citrus as I burst through the skin. I feel the different textures. My mouth starts to water.

Smell has the powerful ability to evoke deep memories. I don’t know why this is not exploited more. Proust’s À la recherche du temps perdu is a long journey down a memory that is triggered by the smell of cinnamon cookie.

For some reason I have a good memory for smells. I don’t have the most sensitive nose. Most women have a much keener sense of smell than I do, but I can often identify the smell when they cant. My mother was a chef and she taught me to cook and use spices. Perhaps it’s from that.

If you take something with a strong pleasant odor from your spice collection, cinnamon, mint and smell it, can you recall that sensation later?

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A comment about Apple Palace. I made a pun about ‘ewes’ the “Red Rocking Chair” song. I presented it as a throwaway joke but that song is part of the memory “image”. I hear it playing as I mentally ascend the spiral. I find that the more dimensions I add, the stronger the attachment. The apple also has a smell as do all the objects within it.

À la recherche du temps perdu ! I could not simply click Like. It s an amazing book. So is your example.

I would love if all examples were gathered in one colorful thread. Many seem to go through many posts in search of examples like these, whether in search for inspiration, for a better understanding of how these techniques are used or just simply for pure fun and curiosity.

What do you think?

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Yes, I’ve been interested for a while in direction that mnemonics take as they become more refined. In the beginning I needed CrashBoomBang but now just imagining something on a table is enough. I don’t need to use anything sexual or violent anymore.

So what does further refinement look like? I suspect it looks like a refinement of the senses - ie simply noticing texture, taste, smell, colour, contrast, weight, etc, without having to mentally exaggerate it.

I’ve heard the speed-carders don’t have time to make proper images - rather it’s on the level of impressions and feeling.

What do you think?

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I don’t do much quick memorization. I am interested in long term persistence. Seems that always takes work. Either a significant investment upfront to develop the image or series of enhancements on the go.

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I think it’s a good very useful idea. Not sure what the best approach would be. We should run this by @Josh.

This a weakness in all discussion forums. Material is scattered and often forgotten. Some threads are very rich, some just meh. A newbie may not know what to search for. Knowing keywords is half the search. And this site is a goldmine - we should mine it :slight_smile:

In many forums they have ‘stickies’. Valuable threads that stay at the top of the list even as new ones appear. I think this thread would be a very good choice for a sticky.

There’s also threads that have just one especially valuable contribution worth saving. It would be good if we could extract those and organize them but I don’t know about the propriety of editing other people’s material this way.

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A post was split to a new topic: Organizing the best forum posts

I love the description of this site as a ‘goldmine’. Perfect!

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Yes it has, completely agree. Unexpected memories come from a certain odour of soap. In my case, because of allergies my sense of smell is very limited, but soaps and detergents are always there.
But, I cannot really recreate them in my “imagination”. When I imagine a picture, I see it in my imagination. When I imagine a song, I hear it in my mind. I cannot do this with smell or taste. They are much more “chemical” than sight or hearing.

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I do not join competitions. I do not play against time or against anyone else. I suppose, though not sure, that the CrashBoomBang might work in the short term, but for long term memories richness works better.

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Hello Lynne,
I found this thread very motivating.
Would you be willing to share the list of classical music you finally arrived at?
I am planning to run this experiment and use the jig-saw puzzle idea with my kids as part of a home school effort to have a broad foundation in classical music.
Best regards,
Mike

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Hi Mike,

Happy to attach the list, but it is in Excel. I have updated the original post on my blog asking for help from musicians, which changed the original list significantly. The new list is now there.

I hope that is useful!

Lynne

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That is perfect! Thank you!

@Snillsparv
I made some links that connects the USA president and your apple memory Palace
The list of president is here -
I link name with common names like cartoon character or singer, dancer etc and surname with verbs or object

  1. George Washington ( Curious George Washing.
    ton of clothes in your first location round part
  2. John Adams ( John - villan of motu patlu is standing on A Dam) Like your location of corner.
  3. Thomas Jefferson ( Thomas - the cartoon train upper side of train , Jeff is putting ) think train is moving in your round stem of apple
  4. James Madison ( James - brother of Jesus has medicine in his hand) imagine because James is standing near leaf .
  5. James Monroe ( imagine James Bond talking.
    with Mohan roy
  6. John Quincy Adams (JQ - Jesus Christ looks
    looks like an Adam (is the first men made by
    God written in Bible)
  7. Andrew Jackson (Andrea dance with Jackson -
    Michael Jackson)
  8. Martin Van Buren ( in Maruti Van bureau - like
    Table is kept)
  9. William Henry Harrison ( W - in your 9th location W like structure is seen very easily and Henry - cartoon character is touching his hair.
  10. John Tyler ( John - a legend is sitting on the
    Tire)
    I added other USA president name after some time.

3 posts were split to a new topic: Share your mnemonic images for numbers 0-99

For learning Usa presidents you can easily search on YouTube
Learn all 44 presidents with world memory champion
It is very fantastic video.
I suggest you to see that.

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I have a good visual memory. It does support color, though I prefer to think in black and white. LOL. I can’t imagine an inner life without images.

But your description of a “narrative” substrate to hold information is very familiar. This is my mainstay too. Pictures are auxiliary they trigger narratives or augment them. IMO this aspect of memory has been somewhat neglected in favor of striking visual images.

@Mayarra and I compared notes once and we both use imaginary lessons or instructions. I imagine myself explaining the material to a class of students who press questions. The result is a narrative with interlocking parts that ensures consistency and completeness.

This works well with topics like math and science but it’s also effective for fictional or historical narratives.

An unfortunate consequence is that I often talk in a rather didactic tone since I have the ‘lesson’ ready to go in my head.

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How interesting, zvuv. I assumed that people with strong visuals wouldn’t use narrative as much. I am intrigued that you say that narrative is your mainstay because that would explain why I can still do things - just the priority to methods is slightly different.

I do the didactic talking too, without intending to do so.

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There seems to be a range in the balance of abilities. I am primarily verbal/ narrative based. I suspect that if people examined their memories, many would find the verbal component is stronger than they appreciated.

My sensory memories can be strange. I sometimes have the sensation of color or sound that doesn’t match any physical experience. Abstract colors.

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