# Memory palace vs. memory journey - confused **URL:** \ **Category:** General Memory Chat\ **Created:** [February 17, 2019, 12:29am UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/memory-palace-vs-memory-journey-confused/36283 "2019-02-17T00:29:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 3
**Author:** ![Josh](https://forum.artofmemory.com/user_avatar/forum.artofmemory.com/josh/32/21_2.png) [@Josh](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/Josh)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2019, 5:09am UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/memory-palace-vs-memory-journey-confused/36283/3 "2019-02-17T05:09:56Z")
I think the idea of memory “palaces” comes from Saint Augustine in _[Confessions](http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/3296)_ (unless someone out there knows of an earlier mention of “palaces” somewhere). Here’s the passage: > And I come to **the fields and spacious palaces of my memory** , where are the treasures of innumerable images, brought into it from things of all sorts perceived by the senses. There is stored up, whatsoever besides we think, either by enlarging or diminishing, or any other way varying those things which the sense hath come to; and whatever else hath been committed and laid up, which forgetfulness hath not yet swallowed up and buried. Some people use “memory palace” to only refer to memory journeys in buildings. Others use terms like [method of loci](https://artofmemory.com/wiki/Method_of_Loci), memory journey, memory palace, and mind palace interchangeably. The term that I like best so far is “memory spaces”. (See _[The Memory Code](https://www.lynnekelly.com.au/?page_id=1343)_.) Here are some related discussions: > [@Memory Palaces vs. Journeys vs. Mind Palaces vs. Roman Rooms](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/memory-palaces-vs-journeys-vs-mind-palaces-vs-roman-rooms/31258): > > Do you make a distinction between “memory palaces”, “memory journeys”, and “roman rooms”? In the early days of this site, we tended to make a distinction between “memory palaces” and “memory journeys”. After Moonwalking with Einstein, many people started to refer to everything as a “memory palace”. I actually prefer “memory journeys” a little more than “memory palaces” and think that “memory palace” refers to a subtype of memory journey. It seems strange to refer to my memory journey through a… > [@whats the difference between a journey and a memory palace?](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/whats-the-difference-between-a-journey-and-a-memory-palace/33060): > > Hello. I have read in some places that journeys and memory palaces are the same thing, but in some other places they are referred to as something different. Do i understand correctly that a journey is a outdoor location whereas a memory palace is a indoor location? a clarification and an examble would be awesome, thanks! --- _[View the full topic](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/memory-palace-vs-memory-journey-confused/36283)._