# Johannes Romberch's Congestorium Artificiose Memorie
**URL:** https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/johannes-romberchs-congestorium-artificiose-memorie/30174
**Category:** General Memory Chat
**Tags:** examples
**Created:** [December 31, 2014, 9:23pm UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/johannes-romberchs-congestorium-artificiose-memorie/30174 "2014-12-31T21:23:46Z")
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### Author:  [@cameri](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/cameri)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2019, 6:48pm UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/johannes-romberchs-congestorium-artificiose-memorie/30174/28 "2019-11-14T18:48:31Z")
Here is a guide which seems promising. Unfortunately, to begin with, there does not seem to be a master of classical Latin here. And then very rare books and dictionaries are necessary and “but anyone wishing to engage seriously with the study of Medieval Latin will find that a knowledge of French and German is absolutely necessary.”
Anybody up for it ?
I found a few descriptions of images and images from it and I am very curious.
I for one would be surprised if there were not even one hidden gem to be found.
[http://individual.utoronto.ca/shamighosh/latin.htm](http://individual.utoronto.ca/shamighosh/latin.htm)
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### Author:  [@bjoern.gumboldt](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/bjoern.gumboldt)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2019, 7:19pm UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/johannes-romberchs-congestorium-artificiose-memorie/30174/29 "2019-11-14T19:19:36Z")
> [@cameri](#):
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> Anybody up for it ?
Why do you want to bother with the Latin version when there is a perfectly fine Italian translation that is much easier to read?
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### Author:  [@cameri](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/cameri)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2019, 7:46pm UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/johannes-romberchs-congestorium-artificiose-memorie/30174/30 "2019-11-14T19:46:36Z")
😁 any Italians can confirm that this is readable and comprehensible ?
> **[Dialogo di M. Lodovico Dolce, nel quale si ragiona del modo di accrescere e...](https://archive.org/details/dialogodimlodovi00dolc_0/page/n6)**
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> Printers and date from colophon
And anyone is a buyer of rare memory books ? 5000E
There are two for sale on Abebooks
Also, anyone passing by the New York public library can borrow one to look at, for use in the library that is.
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### Author:  [@desessein](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/desessein)
#### Post date: [November 25, 2019, 3:03pm UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/johannes-romberchs-congestorium-artificiose-memorie/30174/31 "2019-11-25T15:03:05Z")
Yes. Pretty readable to me and I don’t even know Italian that well… I got lucky that there’s a digitized version of the text in Italian with notes about archaisms and references that the book makes. The Latin text would be readable just as the Italian were it not for the medieval mess. There are a few “letters” that I don’t even recognize and they abbreviate quite a lot of stuff, especially those with q in them, like quisquis, and also write an ~ instead of n or m for some words. Very annoying to read. Apparently, there’s also a digital version in Latin of this book and Ravenna’s Phoenix, I couldn’t find any though.
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### Author:  [@Stefos](https://forum.artofmemory.com/u/Stefos)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2025, 7:26pm UTC](https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/johannes-romberchs-congestorium-artificiose-memorie/30174/32 "2025-05-11T19:26:33Z")
Hi everyone,
There is a version in English here:
> **[The congestorium artificiose memorie – Editorial Sinderesis](https://editorialsinderesis.com/producto/the-congestorium-artificiose-memorie/)**
The author stated its available here and I placed an order for a copy.
Stefos
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