Anyone into Speedcubing?


Does anyone know of the youngest and oldest person to solve the Rubix puzzle? Newbie to this forum.

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Hey guys!

I’m a pretty active speedcuber, I compete in pretty much as many events as I can in as many competitons as I can. Here are my averages (I’m just learning blind so don’t judge lol)

2x2 = 3.87 (Official)
3x3 = 16 ish
4x4 = 1:15 ish
5x5 = I don’t 5x5 very frequently
Pyraminx = 8 ish
Skewb = 8 ish
Megaminx = 4:00 ish
BLD = 7:30 ish
OH = 30 ish

Anybody else?


Bloody excellent times, mate! Your 4x4 is especially good!

I can’t even get under 1 minute for 3x3!


Hey Juls Awad. Great times indeed, especially the 4x4. Keep going.

Now my story on cube learning and solving, from an outsider’s perspective and total amateur view. I firstly touched a Rubik’s cube at the age of 23 (during 2007). No one among my friends even knew or could solve that 3x3 cube. That game was neither ever sold big in my country nor it was ever very popular. But anyway, after watching some YT tutorials I decided to buy one of this 3x3 toy and solve it from a random position, in 6 minutes. Then 3 minutes. Then during 2008, I did about 94 seconds (1’34") and then decided to stop further any cubing. I mean, my goal was reached. I could solve that cube puzzle, which is already very hard enough and unsolvable for the majority of adults. I don’t think that more than a few tens of millions of people have ever solved that 3x3 puzzle since 80’s. So, I am glad I belong to that ‘already solved’ category. I also brought a Rubik’s cube during the MCWC-2010 competition to have a break from numbers and think in colors and spatial patterns. I still know the 3x3 cube solving algorithms, even if I do not practice cubes now. And I am not really into speedcubing I guess, because there is no competition among any of my friends, and it is extremely hard to find speed-cubing competitions in my city. Therefore, I am not much into the Rubik’s cube game lately. But it’s nice toy to practice for spatial skills , especially for younger generations. And the competitions and contests always help as a motivation for self-improvement for youngsters (and socialization). I am sure that cube solving can improve one’s cognitive transferable skills (in other life areas). But sometimes it is disheartening when I see that the 3x3 Cube WR is about only 5 seconds now. Then, you realise the Record times are alredy very low and hard to improve further by anyone who does not have cube competitions as a life priority.

By the way, since you mentioned ‘Blindfold’, during Memoriad 2012 competition (the day before the competition) there was also a lecture-presentation inside the Antalya University for all Memoriad competitors. During that presentation among other shows, there was an on-stage 3x3 Blindfold Cube solving by my friend Khatna, famous mnemonist from Mongolia. (and president of the Mongolian Memory academy)

So, yes some people, among mnemonists, do enjoy solving Rubik’s cubes/blindfold solving. But not all of them. And the inverse applies. Not all cubers advance in mnemonics or calculation or math. At least, even as different hobbies, they have both common of both being Mind Sports. Because both Memory and Rubiks’ are being featured in the same chapter of the Guinness World Records (at least in the Guinness WR 2014 book edition). That is some common ground to share.

Good luck with your future cube records !



I only do 3x3, and I never even got under 2 minutes. Not even sure how to though, I use the techniques I found in a guide, but it is aimed on solving it, not solving it quickly. I am easily doing 100-150 moves. First solve white cross, all white plus bottom layer, then middle layer, then yellow cross and all yellow squares, and last the top layer. I’d have to do each in 5 seconds or less to het under a minute, which seems undoable.

Anyone got any pointers for speed cubing and how to find a good method to get under a minute?


Current personal best with a 3x3 is now 1:38,59, though mostly I am around 2 minutes now.

EDIT: White it was mainly luck, with a lot of pieces ending up in their place without me aiming to get them there, I got 1:13,67 just now


Hi Maya,

I bought a cube for my son to play with. He is 3.5 years old, so I have some time to catch up on my routines :wink:

First solve white cross, all white plus bottom layer, then middle layer, then yellow cross and all yellow squares, and last the top layer

Google ‘intuitive f2l’.
This is your next step in speeding up the process.
F2L (first two layers) solves the bottom layer and the middle layer together.
So after finishing the white cross, do the F2L and after that you can go straight to yellow cross.

That there are 42 configurations to learn in F2L, so in the beginning learning this will slow you down a bit. But once you do this, your speed will improve a lot.


I counted how fast I do the first two layers. Starting with the white cross and then intuitively working out the rest via F2L I need between 26 and 41 turns to do the two layers.

The 26 was sheer luck. I got an egde and a corner nicely paired up twice in that solve.

Usually I need 35, 36 turns before I can work on the top layer. 28 when I have the luck of finding a pair that is already paired up.

I don’t use algorithms for F2L (that’s why it is called intuitive :wink: ). I try to use as many open slots as possible.

If any of you can do this with way less turns I would love to hear how you do this!


My personal record currently is 1:08,52 though it was more luck than skill, usually I am around 1:30

Decided to look at my F2L too, usually I seem to be at around 60 seconds, mainly because I have to look and think too much. The last layer is 100% algorithms so that goes way faster.


Hi Maya!

Here are more tips. Maybe you do this already, but this works for me.
Solve the white cross with white on the bottom. This goes faster and you can work on looking ahead, because when you are done with the white cross you hold the cube already in the right position for moving not F2L.

In general you can solve the white cross with 5-9 moves.
Sometimes you see for example the white/blue edge and the white/green edge on opposite sites and you can either move the white center in between them or move them in tandem to the white center.

Learn the order of the colors. This will help you in placing the white bottom edges quickly. In other words, learn to solve the white bottom without the center pieces from the middle layer. Then, when you are done, just align the center pieces.

Hope that helps.


Thanks :slight_smile:

I indeed first do the cross, then the white corner pieces and lastly the middle layer edge pieces.

(Karan Loomba) #32

Hey guys I am into Cubing as well. My best time is 7.34 seconds and I use skip OLL and PLL techniques along with WVLS and VHLS. I have been doing it for almost a year now.


Hi Karan,

That is very impressive. Congratulations on your result!
Me, I just started again after 34 years. I remember solving the cube as a kid. I was born in 1967, so I was 14 years old when the Rubik’s cube came out.

After relearning solving the cube using the basic method, I am now teaching myself intuitive F2L.

How many algorithms are there to learn for the skip methods?

(Karan Loomba) #34

There are quite a few. I learned all those algorithms from this site: “”. It is really nice that you have started to start cubing again. It has helped me in a lot of things including improving my memory. Just a tip, instead of creating journeys for the algorithms, very slowly perform them and do them again. This would create a mental video in your subconscious which will get triggered whenever you see the case again. That’s how I remembered them. Hope this helps Kinma.
Thank you.


Mostly my times end up between 1 minute and 1:30, though today I did have a nice, smooth run that ended up on 51.46 seconds


Here are more tips for people who want to go from the beginners method to full scale CFOP or also called Fridrich Method.
This is the way I approach this.

First learn intuitive F2L.
Instead of learning the 41 algorithms I move the corner and the edge to the top layer (assuming they are not already there). Also I make sure the corner and the edge are not together.
Then there are only 3 cases to solve (yellow color on the left, right or top).
Might take one or two turns more compared to the algorithmic F2L. However; you save a lot of turns compared to the beginners method.

Full scale OLL and PLL demands a steep learning curve. There are almost 80 algorithms to learn.
If you start with the 2-look OLL & PLL, then there are only 9 algorithms to learn.
The 9 algorithms that you learn are also used in the full version of OLL/PLL so this is not wasted and can always move to learn the rest.

It is a nice way as an intermediate method.

Karan; thank you for the tips. This is indeed what I am now doing. I don’t focus on speed, just on seeing what moves I can eliminate in my F2L.
I focus on specific cases.
For example when the yellow corner is on top, I try to figure out how to quickly get the edge aligned to it.
What I do is, in each solve, I change all cases into this case. A (R, U2, R’) usually take care of turning the corner.
I try to remember what slots are free so I can use them.
Usually I do the cross and the middle layer in 28-35 turns.

(Tinh Bin Bin) #37

I does do some speeds. I got Sub 40 using CFOP which solve the cross before puting final pair in .And OLL Cross only and 2 look PLL. But i mostly increase in solving more puzzles .


Yes! I love it!
I have been into speedcubing for my whole life. Well almost whole.

I love all 3D puzzles and those based on the rubiks cubes are my absolute favorites.

My personal favorite is the 2x2 cube. I had 4 by now in my life and my recent one the qidi broke… Really broke my heart too…
I don’t know why I love the 2x2 so much. Its the most simple one. I can solve everything from skewb to ghost cubes but I love the 2x2 the most.

What are your favorites??